Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Introduced in Ohio;

Pro-Hobbyist Street Rod and Custom Vehicle Bill Introduced in Ohio; Committee Hearing Scheduled for Wednesday, January 23

SEMA model legislation (H.B. 391) that would create a vehicle registration and titling classification for street rods and custom vehicles and provide for special license plates for these vehicles will be considered by the Ohio Infrastructure, Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs Committee.

Introduced by State Representatives John Hagan (district50@ohr.state.oh.us) and Kenny Yuko (district07@ohr.state.oh.us),
H.B. 391 defines a street rod as an altered vehicle manufactured before 1949 and a custom as an altered vehicle at least 25 years old and manufactured after 1948. The bill allows kit cars and replica vehicles to be assigned a certificate of title bearing the same model year designation the body of the vehicle most closely resembles.


We Urge You to Contact All Members of the Infrastructure, Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs Committee (List Attached Below) Immediately to Request Their Support for H.B. 391

For those interested in attending the hearing to show their support, the committee will meet on Wednesday, January 23 at the following address and time:

The Ohio Statehouse, Room 114
Columbus, Ohio 43215
2:30 p.m.

Anyone interested in testifying on the bill should contact Committee Chairman Steve Reinhard in advance at 614/644-6265. In addition, those interested in submitting written testimony in support of H.B. 391 will need to bring 25 copies to the hearing.>>

H.B. 391 provides specific registration/titling classes and license plates for street rods and customs.>>
H.B. 391 includes street rods and customs (including replicas) in the historical motor vehicle definition for the purpose of holding these vehicles only to the equipment standards specified by law during the model year listed on the title of the vehicle.>>
H.B. 391 provides that a replica vehicle can be assigned the same model year designation as the production vehicle it most closely resembles.>>
H.B. 391 permits street rods and custom vehicles to display blue dot taillights.>>

Infrastructure, Homeland Security and Veterans Affairs Committee>>
Rep. Steve Reinhard – Chairman
Phone: 614/644-6265
Fax: 614/719-6982
Email: district82@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Danny Bubp
Phone: 614/644-6034
Fax: 614/719-6988
Email: district88@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Jim Aslanides
Phone: 614/644-6014
Fax: 614/719-6994
Email: district94@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Courtney Eric Combs
Phone: 614/644-6721
Fax: 614/719-6954
Email: district54@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Diana Fessler
Phone: 614/466-6111
Fax: 614/719-3979
Email: district79@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Lynn Wachtmann
Phone: 614/466-3760
Fax: 614/719-3975
Email: district75@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. John White
Phone: 614/466-6504
Fax: 614/719-6966
Email: district38@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. John Widowfield
Phone: 614/466-1177
Fax: 614/719-6942
Email: district42@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Allan Sayre
Phone: 614/466-8035
Fax: 614/719-6996
Email: district96@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. John Domenick
Phone: 614/466-6111
Fax: 614/719-6995
Email: district95@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. William Healy
Phone: 614/466-8030
Fax: 614/719-6952
Email: district52@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Dale Mallory
Phone: 614/466-1645
Fax: 614/719-3586
Email: district32@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Eugene Miller
Phone: 614/466-7954
Fax: 614/719-0010
Email: district10@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Robert Otterman
Phone: 614/644-6037
Fax: 614/719-6945
Email: district45@ohr.state.oh.us>>
Rep. Peter Ujvagi
Phone: 614/644-6111
Fax: 614/719-6947
Email: district47@ohr.state.oh.us

Please e-mail a copy of your letters to Steve McDonald at stevem@sema.org


Please post this thread on any other message boards you frequent and pass it along to all people in OHIO!!!

 

what the hell does "homeland security" have to do with hot rods??? other wise sounds ok.........good luck

 

Politics has strange ways to make things work.

 

soon homeland security will know what brand of toilet paper YOU use

 

im probably the only one in the world against this. but personaly i dont think kit cars or replica vehicles should be allowed any where near the streets let alone be titled as somthing they are not

 

I seem to find issue with it as well. But I am not exactly sure why. I was hoping someone would bring this up on here so we could discuss what exactly this defines.

 

It's not a surprise that someone from Communist New Jersey would be against this.

 

do you realize how this would #1-raise the cost of hotrods past the price range most people could afford if kit/repop cars were not on the road #2 how the aftermarket biz has allowed this to become as big as it is,never mind that the saftey of most the repop 32s etc. has raised the bar for streetable cars

 

hey atleast we can agree that new jersey is a communist state lol

but that honestly has nothing to do with my feelings on this lol.

considering an actual orignal body can be found for less then a repop body costs i dont see how it would raise the price of the real things.

im pretty sure the aftermarket biz would still be as big as it is with out these aftermarket repo bodies after all they build their products for hotrods they dont built them for repop bodies. and besides the aftermarket biz really has nothing to do in the dabate of the real thing vs a repop (except for those aftermarket repop bodys) which they are aftermarket and should not be considered the real thing.

"this really should have been #3" lol but anyways
how is a repop body safer ? id so much rather get in an accident in a metal body then in a fiberglass body ? also how is a repop body more streetable then the real thing?


look the main reason i joined this site once i found it was to find an orginal 1930/31 ford model A body to have as a daily driver. im sick of always seeing repop's at car shows/cruise in's and on the street claiming to be somthing they are not. for those who own repop bodys you can be lazy and claim the real things cant be found anymore and own a repop all you want but please dont claim it to be somthing that it is not. o this doesnt just go for the repop that think they are 32 fords this also goes for the dynacorn bodys that are now being made. id rather drive and beat the piss out of the real thing all day long then even look at a repop body. o and as far as safty goes my friends start crap with me on this all the time telling me a 1930 ford wouldnt make a practical daily driver but im 100% sure i could make a 1930 ford just as safe if not safer then my motorcycle.

 

depending on how the laws are written from state to state... adding an aftermarket frame, or swapping an engine or transmission makes the car a "kit" car or replica. No matter whether or not the sheetmetal was original or not.

hate to tell you, but alot of "kit" cars or replicas are a TON safer than driving the stock version of the car on the street.

 

Its amazing how a hater could turn a registration thread into a plastic car bashing. I for 1 only build real steel cars, but who cares if a tuperware car is on the road as long as it is built to be a safe car.

 

I am really not sure what the point is. Unless it will make it easier to title a car with a bill of sale it seems like a waste. We can allreadt register them as historical vehicles and run YOM plates. The only other advantage may be less restricted driving but I am sure these new designations for our cars will just cost us more.

 

Yeah I'm with Jman on this...I don't know what the ADVANTAGES are. Call tehm whatever you want - how does it "help" us???? I'm not FOR or AGAINST I just don't yet know why I should care one way or another.

 

SIMPLE! many states if you build a car outa parts and you dont have the orig. title you most likely would fall in to the same mess as the "kit" car or even with a title its considered a reconstruct.so this kinda bill would help alot including with insurance issues I would think

 

See above...

 

I am watchin this close.I gotta go thru it here with my plastic "PIE WAGON".....even if I do come up with historic papers

 

This sounds great to me. You can build a car from scratch, wich if you think about it most hotrods are. A body from this, motor from that, homebuilt frame, and still being able to get a NEW title with it calling it the year/make of the body. Other wise the only way you don't have a homebuild title is to buy historical documents and restamp the vins. Then there is the rare case when you get the original title.

 

my orginal post in this thread had nothing to do with safty honestly i couldnt care one way or another about safty. my beef here has to do with titling somthing as somthing it is not. i do no believe a repo body of any kind should be allowed to be titled as somthing its not. a fiberglass body that looks like a 32 ford but was not built in 32 or by ford should not be titled as a 32 ford. those dynacorn bodys that look like camaro's and mustangs were not built in 67-68 or 67-69 and they were not built by ford or chevy there for they should not be titled as somthing they are not. that would be like my 14 year old neighbor taking my id going to the liquor store and actualy buying beer. being he was not made/born the year i was nor was he created by the same people as i was why it be ok for him to claim to be me and for the guy at the liquor store to say that the kid is me when he in fact is not. for those who own and want to own a fiberglass or any sort of repop body of any car sure go ahead and do so but please do not claim to own somthing in which you do not own. as far as it making it easier to title an actual 1930 ford as a 1930 ford that would be a good thing but repop bodys should not be allowed to be titled as somthing they are not those should be titled as what they are kit cars and they should be titled as the year their repop bodys were made.

 

That's great now they just need to do that for every state, then there will be no issue's with people trying to get there cars titled and nobody trying to get some sneaky deals going. I love that fact that they are separating kit cars from real cars and that they seem to make it easier to get a home built project on the road.

 

so a bone stock 32 frame and and engine with a new brookfield body should be registered as a 2008 Ford and be subject to all of the safety and smog requirements that go with the 2008 model year?

remember, as the title year goes, also goes the requirements.

what a great way to kill hot rodding.

 

Something else to know is that when you take this part and that part and put it all together you have your nice freshy painted car. Then you need to take this car to the state where you have to take receipts for everything on the car, every nut, bolt, lug nut and wire tie. Then you don't have a recipt for that rear end that you bought off the HAMB, they send you home without a title and tell you to come back again when you have one. You go back for the second time and there is a receipt for the new posies spring but not the shackles that are mounting it to the axle, then you are sent home again without another title. Get the picture. They do this with bikes now and everyone I know with a custom bike complains about this.

Here is another situation. You but a car on E bay for $1000 and it comes with a bill of sale. You build it and get through the process mentioned above. You put $18,000 into the car with all your receipts. Well guess what, you are going to pay taxes on the $18,000 that you put into building the whole car not the $1000 you paid for the car.

 

sense im asuming your talking about an aftermarket frame. yes it should be titled as a 2008 kitcar not even a 2008ford being its not a ford and yes it should have all the emissions bs just like any other new car which is what it is. how would that kill hotrodding ? it might kill 1800hotrodding but it would not kill the traditional sprite of a real traditional hotrod. so if it kills the 1800hotrodding then hell im all for it. hell even if you actualy have a real 1932 ford frame&engine with a new repop body you should have to deal with the requirements and title of a 2008 kitcar being the car it self is not from 1932. sense that would be like having a 68 ford bronco frame&engine but putting a 70 elcamino body on it and then titling as a ford bronco when clearly its a 70 chevy elcamino.

 

Are you serious? Surely you are on crack, or just a 16 year old kid with no perspective on life....

If serious, thankfully, ignorant people with the above opinions are not the ones that will actually contact their representatives and support this bill.

If you do a search, I posted a similar thread about a year ago on here when this SEMA model legislation was in the Florida legislature. That thread has several people posting that are way off base and have no idea how hard it is to get a hot rod titled if you do not have a visible VIN on the engine/frame.

This bill will most likely pass in your state fine - SEMA is fighting for our hobby like you cannot imagine. Get involved, contact your legislators using the email addresses posted at the top of this thread

More importantly, support SEMA! Click the link in my signature, and just SAN, it is free, and it will keep you in the loop as to how things are going. You can also join SEMA, and really get involved in protecting the hobby we all love.

 

i just dont see how it affects you personally skullboy if someone owns a kit car registered as somthing its not if you dont want one dont build one but why would you want to screw it up for someone who does and if we let them make kit cars deal with todays emmisions requirements then their one step closer to screwing with the rules on the cars we build the car community as a whole has to stick together because whether you like lowriders or muscle cars or hot rods or imports the laws will end up affecting everyone

 

and also if everyone in the world that was into cars owned a model a then their wouldnt have been any left for you so be thankful that everybody is differnt

 

funny how skullfuck's logic came full circle. he started out bitching about kit cars being titled as something they are not, in response to the legislation that allows cars to be titled in the year of the car "they most closely resemble"...he then ends up arguing why a car SHOULD be titled as the vehicle it most closely resembles.

 

no reason to turn this into a pissin match,a lotta states simplely add the words reconstruct,assembled,whatever.This is kinda a important point,reson is it keeps the State tree huggers from makin us worry about smog issues,saftey issues,tax issues and dmv fees for whata new car is.most states tax your plates on the year/cost of said car...unlike say my 39 pontiac where it states on the title price of car-$758.........and then we can always step into the insurance issues.bottom line this is really about car people vs. government---wonder if DMV will let me title the piewagon as a 1968 monogram/revell??

 

if you dont see how having to make a hot rod (in any guise or made from any YOM parts) conform to all of the 2008 emissions and safety requirements would kill hot rodding... there is nothing to be gained by further discussing the issue with you.

 

ya what he said there is no reason to turn this into a pissing match. if you cant type with out calling names then you shouldnt at all.

yes im very serious and your giving me way to much credit here for being a 16 year old on crack with no prespective in life lol.

ill give you an example on how it directly effects me personally. back in highschool a friend of mine bought a 57 chevy delivery from a local junkyard. we spent an entire school year getting that car to daily driver status replacing body panels and other rust/rott rebuilding the suspension and drivetrain. we heard about a vintage pre 73 car car show so my buddy entered his 57 chevy in it and we went to it. to cut this short we were beat for best of show by a 1800hotrod. some guy pulled up with a 2004 fiberglass "hotrod" on a trailer that he had just had built for him. the guy had no right to bring the "car" there it did not stand the test of time there was nothing vintage or pre 73 about it.

yes i am thankful not every one is into the same cars. i never said we all had to be. hell i like hotrods and muscle cars just as much as i like motorcycles so trust me i dont expect every one to be driving the same cars. i just dont like when people claim to be driving/own somthing that in fact they do not own/drive.

gee some one is real imature but besides that how exactly did i go full circle ? i gave two examples of totaly differnt things.

a repop body made in 2008 is not a 1932 ford being it was not made by ford or in 1932

now a 70 chevy el camino on a 68 bronco frame is well a 70 chevy el camino and would be titled as such. its not somthing claiming to be somthing its not and being titled as somthing it might happen to resemble. its somthing being titled exactly for what it is.

i agree 100% this bill would be a good thing for those with old cars. how ever i do not agree with this part of it "
"The bill allows kit cars and replica vehicles to be assigned a certificate of title bearing the same model year designation the body of the vehicle most closely resembles." due to those cars did not stand the test of time they are brand new cars and there for should be treated as such just like every other brand new car.

a 1800hotrod is not a real hotrod and there for should not be treated as such. considering this site is based on cars from before the "aftermarket" even excisted. but all that is besides the point and slightly odd topic my argument has to do with a car from 1930 and a car from 2008 being treated the same when in fact they are not.

hmm this guy has a real valid point here. look im not trying to start a pissing match. im not trying to start a debate or argument on real vs fake. all im saying is that a body that was built today should not be given the same rights as a body that was built in the past and has stood thru the test of time.

 

HAHAHA.....too funny. So basically you are against this legislation because your "buddy" lost a bowling trophy at the local cruise night car show to a guy in a new 'glass bodied '32......

You are right, the entire hobby should now suffer the consequense, and only be able to enjoy '32 Fords if they can pony up $40-60k for a 'gennie roadster body & frame.

How is high school?