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School Me on Early Ford Spindles

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by FunnyCar65, Feb 6, 2008.

  1. FunnyCar65
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    Can you all show me the differance in early ford spindles? What do I look for to tell what years are what.And would new ones be the better safer way to go?
     
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  3. Zombie Hot Rod
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    1937-'41 Ford Spindles are the round back style,

    While 1942-'48 are the square back.
     
  4. t-town-track-t
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    what zombie said. And they all have the built in steering arm. Unless they have been cut off.
     
  5. Andy
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    32-34 are the same. They have the small pattern flange and the arm for and aft steering.
    35 has the same spindle but has the extra bung for cross steering. No arm.
    36 is slightly different in the spindle.
    37-41 is the round back and cross steering. Has big pattern flange
    42-48 is square back and uses a longer king pin. cross steer and big pattern
     
  6. Andy
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    Pics.
     

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  7. Larry T
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    What are the spindles in the first picture (rusty with bearing on top) off of? 42-48??
    Larry T
     
  8. Andy
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    That is a 32 set up with the king pin modified with a washer on top.
     
  9. Larry T
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    I was just wondering, I've got a front end set up like it (with the bearing on top or the spindle) with hydraulic brakes on it and have no idea what it is.
    Larry T
     
  10. Harms Way
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    In 1937 Ford started using a thrust bearing between the bottom of the axle and the lower ear of the spindle,.. (to help and ease steering) this continued through 1948 on all passenger cars.
     
  11. Harms Way
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    Here is a exploded view of the front suspensions,... you can see the bearing Part#3123 shows up in 1937 and runs through 1948,......
    [​IMG]
     
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  13. alchemy
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    What are the particulars on the '35 vs. '36 spindles? Is one longer on the snout?
     
  14. Harms Way
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    I guess I am not expressing myself well,... and the diagrams are a little misleading,..... I could be wrong, but if you look at a King kit for the 1932-1936 you don't get the 3123 bearing in the kit, you do get a felt washer and receiver washer for it,... the top of the 1932-34 king pin has a large ball type knuckle on it for the mechanical brakes,...
    In this picture,
    [​IMG]
    It's a 32 axle with a 1932-34 spindle and probably 1937 to 1941 king pins,
    no knuckle on the top and no wheres else to put the thrust bearing ,..... (IMHO)
     
  15. Andy
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    Yes, One is longer. I think the 35 is the longer one. I can check if you need to know.
     
  16. Andy
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    It's a 32 axle with a 1932-34 spindle and probably 1937 to 1941 king pins,
    no knuckle on the top and no wheres else to put the thrust bearing ,..... (IMHO)[/QUOTE]

    It is the 32 king pin with a washer welded on top. It is hollow. The knob on top was cut off. This was done for juice brake clearance.
     
  17. NealinCA
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    The bearing is used on 28-36...it sits on TOP of the spinde. I think you can see it here...under the cup for the mechincal brake pivot.

    [​IMG]

    Neal
     
  18. NealinCA
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    Richard was talking about the upper steering arm...that is only 32-34. Everything after that was cross-steer.

    Neal
     
  19. Harms Way
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    Well like I said,.. "I could be wrong",.... seems I do that a little more as time goes on (but don't tell my kids :eek: )

    I have received several PM's about the diagram I posted,... here is a link to a lot more really cool stuff,..... and be sure to go to there home page,...

    http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/flathead_partsdrawings_links.htm
     
  20. Larry T
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    Can anyone tell me exactly what I have here? And no, I don't want to know what it's worth and it's not for sale.
     

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  21. NealinCA
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    33-34 front end (axle, spindles, etc) with 39-41 brakes and modified king pins (like Andy posted)

    Nice set up.

    Neal
     
  22. alchemy
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    33-34 axle and spindles, 39-41 brakes, probably a modified 39-41 kingpin.
     
  23. 53 effie
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    Not trying to hijack a thread but...

    Like LarryT said: "Can anyone tell me exactly what I have here? And no, I don't want to know what it's worth and it's not for sale."

    At least not for sale until I know I have plenty of parts for my projects. I have both a '32 and a '34 project to do at some point. What year stuff do I have here?
     

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  24. NealinCA
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    Stock 33-34 frontend.
     
  25. Larry T
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    Thanks for the info guys. I've learned something today (if I just can remember it when I wake up in the morning).
     
  26. FunnyCar65
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    Are the 37-41's being repopped with the steering arms on them?They look like the ones I need.
     
  27. Andy
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    None of the repo spindles have arms.
    In the pictures above, The front end together in the snow is '33-'34 I believe. The axle end with the drum next to it is '35 to me.
     
  28. 53 effie
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    "In the pictures above, The front end together in the snow is '33-'34 I believe. The axle end with the drum next to it is '35 to me."

    I was wondering if they were a different year as the backing plates looked a bit different. One has a lip across the bottom on the center grease container. There are differences in the stampings as well.

    Are the early spindles worth hanging onto if the steering arms are cut off?

    Thanks for your help guys!!
     

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  29. 53 effie
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    These are the spindles that go to the backing plates with the lip on the bottom of the center grease retainer. I didn't cut the arms or cut the axle. I got the parts that way.

    As mentioned in my post above, are the spindles worth hanging on to for anything??

    Thanks again!
     

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  30. DICK SPADARO
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    Parts id answer front axle 32-34, wishbone length would be different, rear axle is 37-38 with mechanical brakes, single spindle on cardboard is 35, cut spindle on cardboard trashed 32-4
     

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