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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by farmboat, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Lonesome
    Joined: Sep 3, 2007
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    from Illinois

    I put the Greasecar conversion in on of my Mecedes and the other one I just filter and pour right into the tank, runs like a dream.
     
  2. Von Rigg Fink
    Joined: Jun 11, 2007
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    sorry crusty i should have been more clear..What i didnt think would last long is the "getting it for free" deal.(the veg. oil)
    And i also see other forms of energy stomping the shit out of this idea in short order..all this energy stuff is moving so fast..its going to end up just like the system you have now powering your computer..out of date by the time you get it..something already new on the horizon by the time you get what you think is the bomb.
     
  3. arkiehotrods
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    Using vegetable oil in a diesel IS traditional.

    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]Q: What's the origin of the diesel engine?[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]A: The first diesel engine was built by German inventor Rudolf Diesel (1858 - 1913) in 1893. By 1898, diesel engines were widely used. Diesel demonstrated mechanical efficiency of his engine to be 75.6 percent. More commonly used steam engines achieved an efficiency of 10 percent or less. Diesel demonstrated his engine at the World Exhibition in Paris in 1900 using peanut oil as fuel.[/FONT]
     
  4. Yo Baby
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    You're kind of a tight fisted little woggie aren't ya?;)
    You don't think a guy should catch a break for using alternative fuel and reducing our dependancy on foreign oil and helping find a use for a waste product in the same stroke? I say if they go to the trouble to collect it filter it and use it,they've earned it.:D
    We get poked in the poop chute enough with taxes as it is.I double dog dare you to try and convince me you don't look for every income tax shortcut you can find.:rolleyes:
    I say more power to 'em.:cool:
    Geez Louise,lighten up already!
     
  5. zombo27
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    Stick it to "the man" every chance you get I say. HE sure will stick it to you, and not even give you a reach around. This is a really good thread.
    Recycle, re-use, restore.
     
  6. I Drag
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    I believe the DMV raises your registration fees to make up for lost gas tax when you change your registration to indicate alternative fuel. You won't forget to change it, will you?

    You guys really want to hate; I'm going full battery powered. Pile on!
     

  7. And part of the sell with this was, farmers could grow their own fuel. Also, Henry Ford wanted all his cars to be powered by ethanol. But the Oil Barrons of the day sqaushed that, sound familiar?
     
  8. tjm73
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    Not comparible. The impact of bicycles on the roads is effectively non-existent compared to the impact of vehicles on the roads. From shear numbers ,to weights, to speeds ,to all thing that break down pavement, bicycles have nearly no measureable impact. Hence no taxes and no comparison.
     
  9. tjm73
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    Eventually we will all being paying a mileage tax in addition to the fuel tax IMO. Think about it. It's the next logical step. Say you drive 20,000 miles per year and they tax you say 3%. They send you a bill for $600 bucks.

    It costs X ammount of dollars to build, maintain and repair the roads. We all pay a portion of it. If enough people don't pay their portion it, it will be determined that a new tax or greater tax is needed to be paid by those who are paying the tax. It's basic economics.

    Nothing is free. Either we all pay our share or some of us pay more than others.

    A + B = C

    C = cost of the roads
    A = me
    B = my neighbor

    A and B should pay equal ammounts to achieve C. C doesn't change. But B stops paying or pays less. A has to pick up the difference. It's that basic.
     
  10. FiddyFour
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    and all of this is to hot rods and customs, just as shoe wear ratings matter to a paraplegic
     
  11. Cargo
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    Up here in the "Great North-Wet" the land of moss and liberals, they are going nuts over this Bio-diesel "fad". The price of beat-up old diesel burning cars is even higher because of all the people making conversions.
    I know that this is off the topic in regards to our hobby, or is it? I mean these people may not be hot rodders, but at least they are getting off their ass and doing something. I've seen some pretty creative filtering systems that can take the crap right from the fryer into the car.
    Anytime someone takes an otherwise useless landfill clogger and turns it into something positive it works for me. I've always said the old car hobby is the ultimate re-cycling project, give the greasers a break.
     
  12. autoartistry
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    A and B must not be paying any of their taxes for roads in Oklahoma..
     
  13. tjm73
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    Roads are that bad huh? Or do you not have roads in OK? :D
     
  14. Abomination
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    I heard canola is the best, and you can get it at places like Applebee's.

    ~Jason
     
  15. Von Rigg Fink
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    hell here in michigan with the lack of jobs and companies diving out there are no more A or B
     
  16. Horsepower67
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    He was also all-for renewable and biodegradable resources, especially soy products. Anyone ever hear the story about the soybean-based trunk lid on his '40 Ford? :)

    That's a sledgehammer 'Ol Henry's swinging at the lid btw.

    Read the whole story here; http://www.thesoydailyclub.com/MOS/MOShenryford/henryfordDL1.cfm
    Or here;
    http://www.soyinfocenter.com/HSS/henry_ford_and_employees.php
    Or just do your own Dogopile search.
     

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  17. I disagree. Think about it, hot rodding is a form of recycling. Take a rusty thing that would otherwise be crushed and made into soup cans, and make something out of it. If it were up to "the man" we would all be driving brand new, slow, oversized SUVs that sucked gas like a whore sucks cock, just so we could put more of our dollars into their pockets. When people can no longer afford to fill the tanks of their hot rods and musclecars, that hobby will be reduced to a rich man's pastime. A regular Joe like myself can't afford to play the game, so what's the alternative for me? I could do like all the kids do nowadays, Go buy a $500 Honda Civic and go to work. Not my thing, but hats off to the kids for keeping some of the spirit alive. With gas prices the way they are, that's what's affordable to them. What I am going to choose to do is to circumvent all conventional wisdom and make a krazy hotrod that shows my style while getting 50+ mpg. Maybe some people on here would say hot rodding isn't about gas mileage, but that way of thinking is going to ultimately kill the hobby for the average blue-collar guy. Either I build something that I can actually afford to drive, or I build something with a wicked huge motor that I can stare at as it sits in the corner of my garage with an empty tank.
     
  18. Weldemup
    Joined: Dec 12, 2003
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    from Central,NY

    Not running WVO in my car,but I've been heating my house with it using a homemade atomizing burner I installed in my wood furnace.
    It burns clean and smoke-free and so far I've been fortunate enough to get it free from a couple of local pizza shops.
     

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