Salt flat special... ed

that sounds like a cool idea...and we'll see you out there...

 

Looking fwd to watching this happen.

Dont fall into the trap about going out and setting a record first time up. Maybe just get a car up for the 1st time and go look and learn

Love the idea of the VW though, have had 17 beetles and own a '05 Caddy Van. I also own a trad styled 32 coupe so I guess that evens it up

 

Yup. I have 3 of 'em right now. PM me if you're interested. Wayno

 

BTW, the www.landracing.com site is back up. This site is a great source of information and comments from many years of combined experience from past, current and future salt racers.

DW

 

hehe. nahhhh I wouldn't have one of those.

 

And you would know this because of your 8 days here on the HAMB?!!

I say lets see some drawings...sounds interesting.

After all it will be home fabricated, isn't that what is all about!

 

Ya know revkev, you sure did spend a lot of time on this thread to accomplish nothing more than neysaying. Oh and nice snicker.... Oh well, we aren't going out to break records just to go fast, have fun, and taste the salt before they don't let us run on it anymore. If anybody has a problem with that, you know what the russians say... f*ck your mother. Otherwise anygood tips, information, or leads on parts... let a brother know.

 

sorry if you took it as something negative. I was just thinking out loud as to the possibilities of the volkswagon based engine actually taking a record. Being bitten with the racing bug I've never been the "hobby type" individual that does things for fun, I get my fun from winning. by all means build the car and have fun with it. I speak from experience as far as building a vw motor goes as I've blown up my fair share. If you want a 2100cc autocraft race motor let me know as mine is for sale (only one I've never blown up). if you are going to put some boost to this thing I would consider the autocraft parts a wise investment. the stock vw 4 bolt per cylinder into a mag alloy case was not a strong setup. This is coming from someone who has raced them and won championships.

 

What I like most about Bonneville is all the different cars and the people running them. They don't just think outside the box, they took what they could use to go fast from the box and trashed the rest long ago. And no 2 cars are the same or even similar. Even in the same cl***. Where else on this planet would you not be surprised to see a flathead ford in a camaro or a helecopter engine in a truck?

You can go for the sound barrier, or just the world's fastest bar stool.
Use your head, go by the rules and build it safe. Then get out there and see how it all works out. The record most are going for is the time they made on the last run.

 

This is a great place to inquire about your project! Disregard the fussy, Concourse Hot Rod (now THAT'S an OXY***** folks) group and keep us posted. Sounds like a relatively budget minded way to hit the salt, and what could be more TRAD. than that?

I think it was just last year(?), RnC had a teaser story of a really cool modified with flat 4 power and it was hooked up to a T-5. Now THAT, I would like to hear more about!

 

Jeem is right. Land Speed Raceing is trad period. I guess the V-Dub didn't catch on as far as rod fodder until late in the game but that doesn't make it any less viable than say a blown aftermarket small block in an old roadster. Fast is fast period.

 

Would there be any overheating issues with an aircooled powerplant?

 

I think it's a great idea. Don't listen to the nay sayers. If people did that then there wouldn't be hot rods. We would all be driving stock model T's still.

 

you would have to duct some air over the motor but otherwise, nope. especially if you run it on methanol.

 

Maybe standing still....but not over 100mph with good ducting........

 

Being the other half of this! We are two of the same, when someone says you can't it only throws fuel to the fire, we will do this And when prople say thats not traditional, well when the 3rd, 7th, or the 3000th car hit the salt ,was it traditional, no it was a dream , because at that time there was no tradition ,and the early pioneers of the sport used what they had and made what they did'nt....So Thanks to Those who backs us and Piss up a rope to those who don't.So on that lets go fast and have fun doing it.....Anybody with info, speed logic, mistakes to avoid,and over all HELP... We are greatful.

 

Relax. The unknowing have moved on. Bonneville racing is more traditional than that ilk will ever be. Build a racer, p*** tech, make a p*** down the salt in compe***ion. That's what LSR is all about. Doesn't matter what body cl*** or engine style. If you're running on the salt you're living your dream. They're still dreaming. Nick

 

iI know its what keeps me fueled....I kinda like the clueless, from time to time...We are a couple of guys who met thru here who both realized we both have the same dreams and goals....I have met My biggest goal (speed wise), that being a crew member on an Nitro HArley team, winning At Indianapolis Raceway Park, Now I want SALT.... Always been a dream and sure as hell do everything I can to get there, might not be this year(running out of time) but will be there next.....Any Advice to some up and commers.....Thanks Ryan www.myspace.com/ryanbfg

 

There is a place here in Tucson that sells old military aircraft parts to civilians (I think mythbusters even went there once) if you drop me a pm, Im going down there tomorow, so Ill look around if you know what size you're looking for and ill bring my camera. from what I hear they are pretty reasonable. only problem might be shiping.

 

Advice? Build it safe. Build it to the limits of the body cl*** you are going to run in. Stretch the ambiguous limits. Once you have a platform then you can run any engine combo and have a chance to be compe***ive. Tell your shoe to not look at the gauges during a run, try not to spin and do not pencil roll!

 

Couldn't have said it better myself!One thing to remember,when starting any racecar project:SURGEON GENERAL WARNING-RACING CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR WEALTH!!!

 

There is nothing wrong with VWs, they are traditional enough for me, and often graced the covers of HotRod Magazine in the early to late 60s

 

Well, if your dead set on doing this, the first question I have is: how deep are your pockets? the second question is: do you want to do this like you mean it or just half *** it?
If your serious and really want to know what it takes to build a real vw race motor go here first: http://www.geneberg.com/ He has forgot more about VW race motors than most of us will ever know. Then go here: http://www.pauter.com/ and here: http://www.autocraftengines.com/ to see what it takes to build a VW race motor that will actually go fast and LIVE.

Forget the CB PERFORMANCE stuff, the offshore stroker cranks, the elcheapo big bore piston stuff, the stocktype rods and the reworked stock head stuff unless you like burning $20 bills. I know this isn't what you want to hear and before you get an at***ude, I didn't just pull this out my ***. This is from a lot of experiance and buckets of money. Remember, you asked. BTW- get to know a machinest well versed in VW machining, he will become your best friend.

 

Mike: any progress on this idea ?

 

Why not drive out there next week and watch for one year, buy the book, then plan from there? For a small four banger, a turbo Hyabusa seems the way to go for maximum HP. Maybe a big bore VW with a short stroke to go down in cl***?

 

There have been a couple set back's in the plan,(mainly me having a 2 level spinal fusion, a couple weeks ago). But have since sold my Harley and have a little mad money now, Mike and I are getting together this weekend and gonna try to put a game plan together.. This is something that just does not happen over night, I have a VW motor for mock up, and am looking into what cl*** will be best for us to have fun/learn in. So as for now the idea is still in it's planning stage's, hoping to move forward soon.

 

This might make a good start, but sadly I didn't see it till it was over.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Rare-original-WW2-special-forces-torpedo-boat_W0QQitemZ160148451313QQihZ006QQcategoryZ585QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

That thing is crazy looking...

 

So you folks are in my head as far as a VW powered Lakester I plan on using my Drag engine it is a turbo 2276 that makes about 450hp

I just bid on a tank from Alaska and am looking into shipping. its a F-15 drop tank that is 21' long by 32" round at the center

So were you guys looking into using chromoly or DOM for your ch***is? Checking about gear ratios with a tranz builder tommorow. might be able to use swing axel reduction boxes backwards for more gear. we will have to keep in touch if your serious my user name is on all the VW boards.

Thanks Dan

 

Man I have been itchin for a taste of the salt myself and a vdub belly tanker could awesome and differant witch is even more awesome especially if you hang the cylinders out in the air to breath besides I hear these old dubs make serious ponies with turbos.

good luck and god speed sir !