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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by guiseart, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. alittle1
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    Why is it that America is buying oil off Mid-East countries? Not all countries, just Kuwait and Iraq. Why is that, you ask? You remember that little war that George Sr was involved in. When Saddam had his *** kicking in Kuwait, someone had to pay for that war, that was Kuwait and Iraq. For the last 15 years or so the Americans have been filling up their ships on the daily basis and trucking it over to the Texas coast line.

    In the last 15 years:
    1.no one has been looking at the number of gallons of oil that has been pumped into these ships.

    2. no one has come up with a figure on how much it cost to kick Saddam's *** out of Kuwait.

    3. no one is sitting at an adding machine trying to figure out how much is enough.

    4. no one in Iraq is looking at any of the above either, because the war still continues.

    5. This war, the oil from it, and the price you are paying at the pump for your gasoline is all tied to the World Price of Everything, (which is a politician's way of saying, let the American people take it up the ***!)

    One way or the other American needs oil, Georgie Jr. needs to pay off his campaign debts before leaving office, so your going to have to pay the World price for it. Get used to it!

    Before you put your "X" on a ballot, make sure who your voting for next time. 'Nuff said!
     
  2. blkcat77
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    Does anyone know why Diesel is way more expensive than regular gas? It used to always be cheaper until about 3 or 4 years ago. Now it's way more. Isn't it cheaper to refine and a more consistent demand year round with mostly truckers buying the stuff?
     
  3. PeteFromTexas
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    I thought diesel was a byproduct of gas. Am I wrong?

    If that is the case I would think it would be cheaper...
     
  4. HOTRODPRIMER
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    I have E**ON stock and believe me,,the stock holders ain't seeing any growth with the higher price at the pump. HRP
     
  5. Mopar34
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    Where I come from BP and Amoco are one in the same. So why are they on two different lists??

    I'm waiting for a real alternative fuel. One made form human/animal waste. As long as there is food there will be waste, and power for my vehicle. :eek: Sure it might be a tad bit stinky, but so are most catalytic converters today anyway and green air is better than brown.:eek::eek::D
     
  6. no55mad
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    My son works at the Cheveron refinery in ElSegundo. He warned me some time back that diesel was going to get pricey because they were required to formulate this new environment safer diesel - they had to lower the sulfer content. That makes the refining process more dificult/pricey and now they have to dispose of mountains of sulfer byproduct.
    Glen Beck also pointed out recently that due to our weak dollar on the world market, we have to give more dollars for a barrel of crude. The Saudies aren't going to lose money on our weak dollar, they just charge more to keep the profits up.



     
  7. thirty7slammed
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  8. Unkl Ian
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    The pumps here are temperature compensating,
    have been for a few years,so that idea doesn't work any more.

    Casts doubt on the rest of the suggestions.
     
  9. Von Rigg Fink
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    awww hell dont cast doubt...Its all ********! no doubt about it.
     
  10. dixiedog
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    That is why we are building a little bio-diesel set up for our work trucks
     
  11. stillkruzn
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    Looks like this thread just turned political... Which means it needs to be closed per the rules...
     
  12. abe lugo
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    urban legend douchebaggery
     
  13. wvenfield
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    Sorry, I don't want to make this political or anything but we need factual information. The Saudi's do not set the price of oil. Yes, they could glut the market which would cause the markets to react but nobody is going to do that.

    Oil is a commodity traded on the open market. Traders set the price. No, it isn't that simple but S.A. doesn't seimply decide "we want $100 a gallon".
     
  14. banjorear
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    God Bless Ronald Regan. God, how I miss the '80's.
     
  15. lotus
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    all the stock I am buying is big oil...probably because it is where I work. It is amazing I have older friends that are retiring millionares from the stock.

    The stock was at 100 a share and I was so hoping it would stay there and split!
     
  16. mknz
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    Sunoco whenever you can.
    On the dirt thing...that's pretty old school.
    They got filter systems on em now.
    My father-in-law replaces those things for a living.
    And on the pump speed...there are government tests each pump has to p*** to be able to legally sell.

    Oh, and as far as the prices...putting an oil man in the white house rose the price of oil? huh...you think? j/k
    oh and of course, let alone the fact that he was basically a puppet for a lot of big businesses
     
  17. guiseart
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    can... open... worms... everywhere...
     
  18. lotus
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    I do not know a lot about diesel fuel but have heard there are two different diesel fuels. When rigs show up at horse shows they put a dipstick in your fuel and if it is the wrong color you are not allowed in. One fuel is the fuel you run in vehicles (pinkish I think), the other is for farm equipment (brownish I think). I do not know when this started but it has been quite a while I think. Not sure if that has anything to do with diesel prices going up.

    I know a lot of people are going to bio-fuel though&#8230;basically running filtered deep fry oil. You can get that stuff for free and basically I think you filter it and then run it in a separated heated tank. I heard you should start/stop your engine on normal diesel though.

    I know people that run drip in vehicles too. It was big when I was a kid but with the high oil prices it is getting popular again.
     
  19. lotus
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    what is this extreme cold you speak of? would that be in the 30's? That is extreme in california.

    is all mid grade fuel 10% ethanol? I had no clue. neat information to know.
     
  20. banjorear
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    Yes, home heating oil is off-road diesel. Meaning not subject to road tax & other gov. taxes. They dye on-road diesel so the inspectors can tell the difference immediately and take action if needed.

    That was an old farming trick that caught on for awhile.

    Buy "heating oil" for the barn and use it in the tractors. Makes sense. Every god damn penny counts when you are dealing with thousands of gallons.


     
  21. stillkruzn
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    Here mid-grade is a mixture of the low and high grade... they mix it at the pump...
     
  22. banjorear
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    Don't know about that. All grades of Hess gas use 10% ethanol.
     
  23. T-Time
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    I do not worry about the price of oil. My next build will use a hand-cranked perpetual motion engine. :p
     
  24. MN Falcon
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    Sometimes I don't know what that extreme cold is anymore either, it didn't get too cold here in the Twin Cities again this year.

    I think in Mn all gas is an E10 blend with only a very few exceptions. In the Twin Cities area we have used E10 since about the mid 80's (at first only during the cold weather months) and there was a night and day difference between the number of dead cars in the winter. I haven't dealt with gasline freeze up since about '88.
     
  25. lotus
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    Isn't there certain months in California where they even use a different recipe for gas? looking that up now...
     
  26. HotRod_Joe
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    Those tips are great, but some of them seem impractical. Instead of trying little tricks, why not just use common sense? Here are my "tips":

    1.) You're not a race car driver and you're not racing anyone. Drive the speed limit.

    2.) You're not drag racing either. Take off from stops at a reasonable pace. Taking off like a bat out of hell does not get you anywhere faster.

    3.) Read your owner's manual. In this odd little book in your glovebox, you'll find what's called a PM schedule. Follow it and take care of your vehicle. The engine won't need to work as hard to get you going and keep you going.

    4.) Check your tire pressure. How much does a tire pressure gauge cost? $3.00, if you buy a name brand? Many filling stations still give air away for free.

    5.) Use turn signals. This won't save you any fuel, but it will make you less of a douchebag. :D
     
  27. banjorear
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    5.) Use turn signals. This won't save you any fuel, but it will make you less of a douchebag.

    Amen to this one!
     
  28. no55mad
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    I'm no financial ****yst, just a blue collar union worker. Glen Beck explained most of the world uses our gold standard which is backed by US dollars. Our dollar is currently weak when you figure exchange rates. So, whatever currency the Saudi's use, they need more dollars to exchange for their currency - the US is on the ****py end of the exchange rate. We have to give them more dollars for a barrel of crude. Example of where this is currently going - Viet Nam will no longer trade in US dollars for fear the dollar will soon be worthless.
    On another fuel note, the latest Drive Magazine had a good article on E85. They said Brazil is the 5th largest country in the world and ~70&#37; of new cars there are E85 compatable. The 08 Corvette Indy pace car is running on E85 and will be driven by Brazil native Emerson Fittipaldi. He is a big promoter of E85. Drive had another article on CAFE standards of 35 mpg by 2020 which was just p***ed in the House and Senate and signed by President Bush. Drive's opinion is this will kill the factory hotrods like the Vette, Boss, and Challenger etc. Don't know how we could meet 35 mpg with E85?? Our hobby will surely continue to be affected by all this!

     
  29. theHIGHLANDER
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    E85 is not the answer. Alky is .9lbs/hr/HP, gasoline is .5lbs/hr/HP. Almost twice the volume. it also drives agricultural products up due to speculation. No good.
     
  30. Ranunculous
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    Uhhh,doesn't each state have a "weights and measures" division to check the
    delivery of pumps,scales and measuring devices? You get what you pay for and physics and the laws of entropy and thermodynamics still don't get violated.

    I read somewhere that E**on made something like $74,000+ per second last year? That seems awfully low?
    Still makes me really angry though.
     

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