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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tantara2001, Sep 9, 2005.

  1. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
    Posts: 5,148

    pitman

    Me thinks we're all sharecroppers :eek: :D
    Projections...cause of much trouble!
    Solar is available, and demands a whole lot of ingenuity
    to make it prove out, when compared against short-term
    polluting combustion based electrics. In the long term I believe
    it is simply one of the better sources of useful energy. You can breathe, you can live next door, and it's most catastrophic failing
    won't equal the nuke's problems.
     
  2. zimm
    Joined: Jan 22, 2006
    Posts: 802

    zimm
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    from iowa

  3. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    squirrel
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    yup.

    It's all about economics. You can't convert solar power to electricity for less than the cost of making electricity with coal. As long as electricity made from coal is cheap, and electricity made from solar is expensive, we will be getting most of it from coal.
     
  4. BAD ROD
    Joined: Dec 16, 2004
    Posts: 1,532

    BAD ROD
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  5. watch this guy close he's crazy!:D :D
     
  6. 6t5frlane
    Joined: Dec 8, 2004
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    6t5frlane
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    from New York

    Rice Rod............E U
     
  7. Last year I was thinking a lot about building something electric.

    I figured that it'd cost about the same for me to use as if gas went back to about $1.25/gallon.

    But the motors aren't cheap, the batteries less so, and the controllers... ouch.
    So, I said WTF and started scraping together parts to build a tunnel rammed 489 for my truck.

    Yeah, and they go just a little bit better, too!

    Love that car...

    I doubt you'd score all the batteries for a Prius for $2400.
    BTW, I read a book on the environment - by Jared Diamond (not some goddamn left-leaning, tree-hugging greenie but a sensible 'sees both sides' kind of guy); a lot of the metals used in these hybrid batteries, in catalytic convertors, and O2 sensors (rhodium, palladium, platinum, lithium, etc.) really fuck up the environment where they're mined.

    But that ain't done here. NIMBY wins.


    -bill
     
  8. RATFINKFOREVER
    Joined: Jul 3, 2007
    Posts: 207

    RATFINKFOREVER
    Member
    from Canada Eh

    Yes it would be cool to do and it would be hard but if you can dream it you can do it.
     
  9. RATFINKFOREVER
    Joined: Jul 3, 2007
    Posts: 207

    RATFINKFOREVER
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    from Canada Eh

    Also gas in the states isn't too bad it like $1.00 plus in canada a liter and there is 4 liters in a gallon so not too good.
     
  10. I have to admit I had some thoughts wondering what the GM 6.2 Diesel from 80s trucks, could do in a lightweight hot rod. I decided it could mostly cause headaches and look like hell, but... it's another option.
     
  11. dirtbag_46
    Joined: Aug 15, 2007
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    dirtbag_46
    Member
    from ohio

    hahh if one of my freinds ever even thought about doing anything with a prius I would smack the mess out of them and i would expect the same from them if I wound up astray

    why not thats same glass T with a 4 banger weather it would be out of an A or a pinto or what ever those bangers from the 80s were that looked like offys i think that would be a much better thing to do and then people wouldnt laught at you
     
  12. jeez, why ruin a good hot rod with a shitty power plant. run the hamster wheel shit in the daily and leave the real engine in the hot rod. here is another alternative, steam! ha ha.
     

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  13. Chris P
    Joined: Nov 27, 2005
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    Chris P
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    from Tucson

    I think it would be neat to run a little roadster on air. People have been using air for a while to power cars.

    There was a neat website on old air cars but all i can find now is the new ones. http://www.theaircar.com/
     
  14. cruzr
    Joined: Jan 19, 2006
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    Member Emeritus

    If it aint powered by gas.............pass !~!

    besides what would ya listen too?? The "tunes" my flatty puts out are better than any radio station or cd player

    course i have neither in my cars
     
  15. dirtbag_46
    Joined: Aug 15, 2007
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    from ohio

    cruzr i agree with you all the way i love music i play bass a little but i love to hear an engine. it dont matter to me what kind i have a honda with one of them damn bean cans on it... yeah i know dont blame me its from a previous owner...and a V6 dodge with holes in the exhaust and i love to hear them run. haha the holes happen to be from a cold chissel and a big hammer but thats alright
     
  16. willowbilly3
    Joined: Jun 18, 2004
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    from Sturgis

    60 to 250 mpg??? No prius ever made 60. The old diesel Rabbit will beat the shit out of one for milage.
     
  17. Abomination
    Joined: Oct 5, 2006
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    What about those guys using aircraft alternators & generators as the motor to power Subarus in the 80s? Doesn't Ed Bagely Jr. have one?

    ~Jason
     
  18. tjm73
    Joined: Feb 17, 2006
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    LMAO!! There is so much truth in that analogy.....
     
  19. Bigcheese327
    Joined: Sep 16, 2001
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    Electric conversions on vehicles have come quite a ways since then. My understanding is that the aircraft parts don't have the durability for long-term use. Of course, that mostly comes from websites attempting to sell brand-new electric motors as part of a conversion kit, so they have a stake in the matter.

    -Dave
     
  20. Bigcheese327
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  21. fiat128
    Joined: Jun 26, 2006
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    fiat128
    Member
    from El Paso TX

    Is that a Biscooter from Spain.

    Not sure how I missed this thread but it sure was entertaining.
     
  22. 48fordcoe
    Joined: Feb 18, 2008
    Posts: 113

    48fordcoe
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    from In

    I read about on here last week ,so I look in to it .Any one can make one ,if you can build your car you can make a cell . I put it on my truck yesterday took a drive .It take off for the stop light and excellart so smooth .. I had to pull it out last night to put a vent in ..put back in today just got back for 50 miles drive my needle on the gas gauge did not move... the hard part is finding all the things to make ....I'll be passing a lot of gas stations... so look in to making one so you drive right by too....:) do a lot of reading before wiring it up
     
  23. WHA?

    Is this for real? I must have missed the post last week about making a hydrogen cell...
     
  24. I'm curious as hell now..... Links??
     
  25. nexxussian
    Joined: Mar 14, 2007
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    I have heard of it as well, keep us posted.

    I know a guy in WA that is tinkering with that, he's retired. Sounds neat, but kinda in a 'too good to be true' way.
     
  26. Someone's pulling your...leg.
     
  27. Kramer
    Joined: Mar 19, 2007
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    Kramer
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    I'm thinking someone had one to many last nite.
     
  28. Gigantor
    Joined: Jul 12, 2006
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    Gigantor
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    Don't kid a kidder .... this information is the quickest way to see yourself stuffed into the back of an unmarked black suburban and boxed up into a wooden crate by an old guy who will put you in the warehouse right next to the arc of the covenant.

    In other words, if this is for real, tell me more.
     
  29. nexxussian
    Joined: Mar 14, 2007
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    Oh, for those that haven't heard of this, you electrolytically crack water and feed the H2 to the engine to make it burn better / cleaner / more efficient. There are various posts here and on the internet about it. I haven't been able to wrap my head around cracking water with electrons and coming out energy ahead enough to improve anything (like fuel economy). It's why I asked to keep us posted, especially w/ mileage numbers (before and after would be exceptionally nice).
     
  30. chopolds
    Joined: Oct 22, 2001
    Posts: 6,271

    chopolds
    Member
    from howell, nj
    1. Kustom Painters

    It takes energy to break water into hydrogen and oxygen. usually, more than you get in the outcome. Research is going on to make it more effiecient, so it's practical.
     

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