I have one with a Fordomatic in it. That is a 2 speed auto. Not sure what later ******s would mate up without an adapter.
My 61 ford custom had a 223 with a fordomatic. Cool thing is they can be push started. BTW, fordomatc and cruiseomatic both = FMX, I believe. related link...http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/102561-how-to-identify-an-fmx.html and...http://www.automaticchoice.com/Catalogue/fmx.pdf and good ole wiki...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise-O-Matic
Since the 223 was made untill 64 I would think there is a C-4 that will bolt up,find a 64 galaxie or custom with the 223 with a automatic and I would think it would be a C-4 since 64 was the first year. It might be hard to find one since it would be a one year trans but there should be some out there. jeff
Cooter, any trans with a rear pump can be push started. The pump turns with the driveshaft. rollin, never seen a 223 with anything but a 2-speed Fordomatic.
+1 ... The rear pump turns and all hydraulic functions work even without the car running allowing you to be pushed, apply low gear, turn the key and voila...the car starts. I turned mine into a brush buggy (a really heavy one) then sold it to a kid for a demolition derby, bought it back for $20 and drove it home. This particular trans was tough as woodpecker lips. You can also throw that baby in neutral and tow it with all 4 tires on the ground.
Also seems that the 223 shares it's bell housing bolt pattern with the 215 and the 262 L6 cyls. and another link to 223/****** info http://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/53630-which-3spd-od-s-w-223-a.html
The Fordomatic (FX/MX series) is not a two speed transmission. There was a Fordomatic two-speed that came out in the Fairlanes (and maybe Falcons?) circa 1962/63, though. Not the same ******, at all.
My 56 223 has the rear motor mounts on the bell housing. If your 57 is the same wouldn't you need a crossmember for the auto transmission mount? I didn't see where anyone said a Fordomatic or a Cruise-o-matic would bolt right up...torque converter and all.
Too bad you are so far from me as I just remembered a local junkyard has a 64 custom with a 223 and a automatic trans. Jeff
Not if the donor car used mounts on the bellhousing. If the donor had a 215, 223, or 262 the bell housing will (should) pysically bolt to the block. The V-8s seem to be a different bolt pattern. TCs and flywheels should be checked for weights. A custom bent dipstick tube is not too hard to fab. Pay attention to starter orientation, also. Another link with fordomatic info...http://www.charlie******.com/2speed.htm
Fordomatics - two very different versions 1st version is really a three speed automatic (if you use LO). Normally in Dr the transmission starts in 2nd and shifts to 3rd. Lo is really a 1st gear, and it is possible to start off in 1st when in DR. This is accomplished by depressing the accelerator to the floor hard. The transmission will start in 1st, then shift to 2nd and then 3rd. 2nd version - 1959-63. This one is really a two speed and was used for 144 and 170 sixes in Falcons, Comets, Fairlanes, and Meteors. It was also used with 221 and 260 V-8s in those cars. I believe that all 223 sixes used the 1st version of the Fordomatic, and possibly the Cruiseomatic. I don't think they ever used the 2nd version. As far as being used with the C4, it is possible for 1964 in the big cars. But if you think carefully, the bell housing for the 223 and 240/300 sixes are the same I believe. So it may be possible to use C4's and possibly AOD's on the 223. You may want to research this information.
As I recall from my youth, any car with an automatic that could be push started would have to get up to about 25 MPH...or maybe it was 15. Anyway You couldn't start them with 2 guys pushing it running down the street like you could with a clutch. I do like the idea that the Fordomatic can be towed on all fours. I really do prefer an automatic trans. and I've been thinking of using my F100 as a tow vehicle behind my motorhome.
Mine would fire off at around 10 to 15mph. Parking it on a decent hill was enough. Rollin-on-heels, are you bent on a automatic. The more I read, the more I'd go with an original overdrive.
rare, are they? See, this is why there are so many fords with 350/350 chevy combos in them. All the cool stuff was crushed cuz it was so crazy heavy or broken beyond repair by racers.
The stock F100 223 fordomatic setups are out there. A Ford experienced ****** guy can put a later FMX behind the truck fordomatic bellhousing with the mounting ears. This more commonly done with Y blocks but is the same idea. But if your F100 223 is like my F100 223, then every horse wheezed out of it needs to make it to the pavement. I'd stay with a stick. The T86-OD's are out there also. Just make sure you get the truck version with the big input shaft and R11 OD.
A T-5 might be a better trans to put behind the 223,I put one behind the 235 in my 37 chevuy p/u and with the 2.79 gears it seems to work just fine. Jeff
My long term goal is to use a Clifford cam, 4bbl intake and headers to compensate for the loss of power. My days of wanting to burn the rubber off my tires are over. And shifting isn't fun anymore either.
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