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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by zeitlerusmc, Jun 10, 2008.

  1. zeitlerusmc
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    here is what i got, I got fuel got spark but flath[​IMG]ead wont fire, i can see the valves opening and closing, rebuilt carb, new plugs and wires, points, condenser, tried graity feeding the carb, pouring in gas, starting fluid, still wont start, anyone want to trade for a 41 chevy??? ha ha [​IMG]
     
  2. zeitlerusmc
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    whats with the way this forum inserts pics???? wierd!
     
  3. Unkl Ian
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  4. JohnEvans
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    Gee ! ya got any compression?
     
  5. Abomination
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    I'd trade in a heartbeat (but the ones around here are a little rougher). LOL!

    Is the distributor off 180 degrees or something?

    ~Jason
     
  6. If you don't want it, I'll buy it from you.

    I have a 41 Chevy 4dr Project , with mustang 2 front end installed and a 9 inch Ford disc rear end I'll throw at you.
    As long as I don't need to break the bank to get your car..

    Serious.
     
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  8. lowsquire
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    if you can see the valves opening and closing that means the heads are off it.
    Flatheads may be simple, but they still like a cylinder head on to run.
    you idiot.
    :D
     
  9. zeitlerusmc
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    well i dug out my compression checker and i think its broke it wont hold any presser, but it only showed 30 psi on number 1 cylinder, the motor has a rebuild tag on it thats looks to be from the mid to late 70's, and odo shows 66k! desert rat how much is it worth to you?
     
  10. zeitlerusmc
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    negative shit head pull the plug out and look down the hole and you can see the valves move!
     

  11. PM me and we will talk about it!!
     
  12. lakes modified
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    Check to see if you have compression, spark & juice to the coil. Then check into the carb to see if it's getting fuel. If it's missing any of the above, it will not run, duh?.If missing any of the above, sit back & have another cool one, then try again before you fall over??. LOL.
     
  13. zeitlerusmc
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    6 volts not cranking going into the coil, 4 volts cranking, carb is being gravity fed, choked, throttle pulled out and i feather the gas pedal when i go to start it fuel Is going down the carb! Hey guys im a chevy guy but i do understand motors!
     
  14. zeitlerusmc
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    if you had this car how much would you ask for it??
     
  15. duste01
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    I figured you would have stuck a sbc in it by now. It would have been quicker.
     
  16. slddnmatt
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    id say jacked distributor, that is what happened to this one so it was parked in 74. my dad found a loose wire in the dist. fixed that and it fired right up and didnt even leak water!!
     

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  17. zeitlerusmc
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    ya trust me i have been threating to, but since it being a ford i dont plan on keeping it, and i think it would hurt the the value of it especially if i find one of those wacko restorers who put them back to bone stock and original! but i do have 6 chevy small blocks that could be built and put in!
     
  18. zeitlerusmc
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    mine has been parked since 68, but there is only one wire coming from the distributor!
     
  19. zeitlerusmc
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    damn this forum gets a lot of responses quick, little bigger than what im used to (killbillet.com)
     
  20. Mopar Mama
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    Don't give up so soon. I spent 3 freaking months trying to start my '52 Plymouth and finally got her fired up yesterday! Runs like a champ. Take it one piece at a time. Don't panic yet. Whoever said to step back and have a beer is right. Is this your first car? These things take time. Do some more trouble shooting before you throw in the towel. All the suggestions above are excellent ones, especially the compression problem. Hang in there!
     
  21. zeitlerusmc
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    ha ha not my first car but first ford and first flat head!
     
  22. duste01
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    I figured when he said he had spark, he had spark at the plug. you only need four things.
    compression
    spark
    fuel
    air
     
  23. zeitlerusmc
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    i do have spark at the plug!K guys like i said, I appreciate the help but i understand the internal combustion engine, im just looking for some flathead help, some little things about these old motors that may help!
     
  24. duste01
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    we just like to poke fun too. there isnt much trick to it. You probably just need that beer and some fresh perspective.
     
  25. Adam F
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    Someone will correct me if I am wrong but that one wire you mention that connects to the distributor connects to a brass post that is insulated. Over time the insulation breaks down and then you get a short there. This stops the power getting to the points the motor won't run. Try getting a replacement and putting it in... happened to me...
     
  26. ahawes
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    Ballast resistor
     
  27. Abomination
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    That same thought crossed my mind, too. :)

    ~Jason

     
  28. Mr48chev
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    6 volt cars don't have ballast resistors so that is out.

    Try this: Since the compression is low squirt a couple of squirts of oil or Marvel Mystery oil in each cylinder and crank it over a few times and then put the plugs back in and see what happens.

    With 30 lbs compression on that cylinder there is a good chance that most if not all oil has drained off the cylinder walls and the rings aren't getting a decent seal.

    As said above you need Fuel, air (fuel air mixture) compression, and ignition (spark at the correct time.

    It looks like you have fuel, air and spark so it is time to work on compression and timing. I would think that if the car ran when parked and no one has screwed with it the timing should be close enough for it to run.
     
  29. Abomination
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    Oh crap, you're right there. No balast resistor. :)

    After it's been running for a week or so, you might want to try that Bon Ami down the plug holes trick to reseat your rings - assuming compression doesn't hold and be awesome. Who knows - maybe the compression stuff will go away after it's back on the road!

    ~Jason

     
  30. I'm with mr48chev. Squirt some motor oil in the cylinders. May even have to tow or push it to get it to fire. I would bet money that is what it is. I have had many cars that have sat for a long time, and they always need oil in the cylinders and usually a push start if they are 6V. Have someone get behind it or pull it with the 42 in second or third gear, key on. Chances are it will chug along and fire.
    DON'T GIVE UP!!!!!

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