I know I should post this on the sales board, but thought you might find interesting to see whats still available here. This are from a good guy I know and even I dont like old cars leaving the country he's right about that this cars have no market here. Nash Phaeton 1929, U$5000 Chevrolet Roadster 1931, U$6.800 Ford V8 Convertible Sedán, U$12000 Buick Roadster 1930, US11.500
years ago there was someone selling cars from Argentina, when they got here most people were pretty unhappy , these cars were flat worn out , then patched and worn out some more , bad roads just beat them to death , I would never buy one from just a few pictures...... Beaulieu
I just got back from business trip to Buenos Aries. Beautiful girls, great city --- amazing show at Senior Tango, long flight 11 hours I hope to go back soon Gary
Yeah well, about the bad roads.., this is not Zambia actually. I bet 70+ year old cars are worn out and patched all over also in the US
There was some kind of doctor that ran an ad in Hemmings almost monthly selling old Fords. Shipping always put them abouve the going rate. I'm surprised that there are any left. The first reproduction parts that I remember were Argentina replacement parts just used to keep the cars on the road. They were not known for their attention to detail.
Were these cars back in the 1930s built in Argentina ? or maybe assembled there? or just imported from the USA ? Beaulieu
I believe they were assembled there. They were all right hand drive which was another added expense to convert to LH drive.
I'm suprised they are right hand drive because in Argentina they drive on the same side of the road as us. Gary
The early 30's cars, mostly model a's seem to be really common and cheap. Anything else is as much if not more than you would pay here. Some kinda unique stuff down there. I have heard the economy really is in bad shape there, much much worse than ours. Could be worth a trip down there for a couple of container loads of model a roadsters, pheatons etc. Check out this link http://www.arcar.org
The biggest problem with cars or any other vehicles in Argentina is that in 1950 Juan Peron cut off trade with the rest of the world.Suddenly,you couldn't get parts for your cars/motorcycles.(Like Cuba today). People had to make do and learn how to fabricate.I'm sure no one here has been in that predicament. Some people were extremly crafty,some did survival wrenching to get by. Argentina at one time was an extremly wealthy country.After WWII they had the world's third largest gold reserves.They made a lot of money off of us by selling beef to the US for the Pacific campaigns.After 1950 there were NO new vehicles coming in or parts.They made a pitiful two cylinder two stroke automobile down there. People had to make do with what they had. The Dr.who brought stuff out ,later brought out motorcycles.I think he's gone back to being a vet. now. I went down there in 1991 and bought out a shop.The same guy was doing cars.he had a lot of guys who were fabricators and worked cheap.The reason so many old cars survive there is because it is all they had.They use to have a bitchi'n series for road racers made from mostly 37 Chevies.I went ot a car show when I was there and saw a few. Very interesting country.Very interesting people.Also a good example of what happens when politicans get in and screw with free markets.
Hard to imagine,I remember a Street Rodder article from my youth in the 70's about somebody shipping "barn find" type cars to the states from Argentina.Either that issue made quite an impression or I used it as a dropcloth to build models on.May be the same issue detailing Jeff Becks duece collection of that time.I built a lotta models on top of that article. Can't remember what I did last week though.
a guy from here in ND spent a ton of money and went down and bought a bunch of cars and shipped them up here.. i mean 32/33/34/35/36/37 Ford Roadsters mostly... cars were pretty decent actually, somr rougher than others. still lost his ass is the story i heard...
I just got back from there and I can tell you Argentina is not an inexpensive place. Gas is the same as ours, housing, food etc costs are equivelent to New York, it is not the place to go looking for bargins Not to mention the cost of a shipping container has got to be close to $3000.00 fron there to the states Gary
You are right Billy.., A's are common butsadly not the coupes and roadsters. There sure are some out there but owners know what they have and wont let them go for a few bucks. Also many coupes were turned into trucks in the 30's 40's and even 50's on the country side. A stupid friend of mine who lives outside BA sold 2 months ago a really nice straight A coupe for US$5000. Thats a bargain for a near complete coupe down here. Damn it he didnt told me...., he was asking US$10000 last time I talked with him. D.
Yep Tommy, that was Dr. Mario Kaplan - in reality a dentist actually, as I recall. I had agreed to buy five cars from him in 1980 and had agreed what I though was a discounted deal seeing as how I was going to buy a bunch. They were all Fords: a 1929 Model A roadster, a 1931 Model A de Luxe Phaeton, a 1933 rumble seat roadster, a 1933 phaeton and a 1934 cabriolet - I still have the photos. Before I wired the $$$ to an escrow account, I found that he had advertised each individual car elsewhere considerably cheaper. I called him on it and asked him to match the price he had advertised elsewhere. He sent me a letter telling me what he thought my mother's profession was and that I was the son of one etc. I filed a complaint with Hemmings which was his main source of advertising, enclosing full details and copies of correspondence. No advertisement of his appeared in Hemmings for ten years. His son has advertised cars in the past few years. Argentina is generally expensive - Uruguay is somewhat cheaper.
My dad has a friend who imported 3 cars from Argentina, a 1934 Ford Coupe, 1936 Coupe, and a 38 or 39 coupe. I would like to get a Brazillian F100 though the '57 through 60 style. not sure on the years there but I know they had different grills...hell I actually would just need to get the grills I can find trucks easy enough.
if anyone does bring something up to the USA I would be interested in buying some space in the container for some other parts let me know Beaulieu
bought a 34 rdst. and 34 cabro. couple years ago that came from so am. in the 60's .cabrolet had been hit, needed lot of work to straighten out, almost ready for paint. rdst. body verry good no rust in floor, front frame horn mangled,??front axil.collecting parts, using a 55 cad eng, [still kooking for adaptor to ford trans]always wanted a fordillac......
Those prices in the original post are VERY high! Would have to be 1/3 that to make it work with shipping.
Well done Weasel.., that guy is a dumb ass. He's been getting cars away for years and 5 time of the local cost. Of course that was he's bussiness. Anyway, he's not a good guy from what I know.
all of my family is from Argentina and according to my mom (who has no clue on cars) said that on a farm that our family owns theres a 32 ford in a barn.. so she says,,, but why would she say 32 of all years??? I told her to find out and I will go get it if it is,,,
Hey Evel !!! good to hear from you !! Argentina's big, where's your family from ?? let me know the place in detail please....
Ya right I would tell you hahahahahaha I hope for a 32 but I doubt it is..... My family is from B.A. but I don't know where the farm is..I'll find out... Che..
I have had real experiances with both the good and the bad buying cars from people in Argentina. There are still cars down there just like there are still cars up here. Good ones and bad ones (just like here). For the record, mario Kaplan and his son are M.D.s not vets. I have purchased one 32 roadster from them and it was exactly as advertised. I have also had him to my business here in the states and had lunch with him and his wife. Good people. Sounds like a lot of hearsay going on from people who have not dealt with or met the man. Hearsay is nothing more than cheap gossip, stop saying things about people if you have not met them. I can say is my dealings with him were good. I also have been ripped off by another guy in Argentina and recomend you run the other way if you ever encounter him. His name is Bill Johansen. A real thief. Took my money for some cars and fucked off. There are a bunch of people that he did this to and he is a wanted man. Stay clear of him. If any of you have ever dealt with him, PM me. We can compare notes.
Acme, maybe you should read my post again - definitely not hearsay, as I was about to wire the money to this Mario V. Kaplan M.D. I just dug the old B&W photos out and there they are as I said in my original post: 1929 roadster, 1930 de Luxe Phaeton License K181066, another 1930 de Luxe Phaeton - white with dark fenders and the 1933s and 1934s as well as some later Fords - 36 3W, 39 coupe etc. IMO this guy (if he is still around) is a scumbag hiding behind his 'M.D.' persona to give himself an air of respectability. Writing 'Tu madre es una puta' was not exactly gentlemanly behavior and he deserved his ten year ban from Hemmings - at least they thought his behavior warranted it, so maybe there were more complaints about him.
Agree, he's not respectable down here either. I have no experience with him since I dont need anyone searching cars for me.
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