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thousand feet, how do ya like it so far???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chopt55bc, Jul 13, 2008.

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  1. chopt55bc
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    now that i seen it, still dont like it! considering how many fuel races are won in that last 320 feet and considering that denver has ****py air and an up hill shut down area why even do it there??? i agree with mike dunn, wally parks would be rollin over in his grave!!!
     
  2. pan-dragger
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    was at the race yesterday, 1000ft ****s! drag racing is 1/4 mile.
     
  3. fanspete
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    It's POOP! The NHRA wants to be nascar so bad they even make the same kind of lame *** decisions.
     
  4. dirt t
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    It 's not the same!!!
     
  5. 1/8th here we come!
     
  6. dmc3113
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    NHRA has never been in the real world in some aspects. Kallita's car was a fireball at 1000ft. The cars do run too fast for some tracks. Denver is not a good test. See how well they run at the next race where they have some good air. Wait about a month and they'll have the cars over 300 at the 1000ft mark. They're already over 250 at about 300ft! Too much high dollar technology! Restrict them to 1 mag, 8 plugs, lower the volume of the fuel pumps, lower the compression. Dale Armstrong has proved to NHRA this is the way to slow the fuel cars down a couple of years ago. If there are not some restrictions put in place they're going to have more fatalities and serious injuries. Prudhomme said last night fuel racing has gotten totally insane.
     
  7. Garlits said about the same as Don Prudhome............it has gotten completely out of hand. Something has got to slow them down. If these two guys say that, I am a believer. As an old time drag racer I suggest:
    1) 1 mag
    2) 1 set of plugs, that being 8
    3) 1 pump
    4) max out the blower size to a 1071, maybe a 1271 (no set back allowed)
    5) max out the CI's at 425, maybe even 400
    6) 90% nitro
    7) go back to the 1/4 mile
     
  8. 17dracing
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    Hey guys ! NHRA had to do something ! 80 percent of drag racing facilities just don't have the room for more shut down area ! I LOVE THE 1/4 mile 1320 ft. But I care more about the safety of the drivers !! You have to think,when most tracks were built ,they were not designed for 300 + mph cars ! I've been around drag racing since I was born . And something had to be done !!! I don't want to see another driver have to die like Scott !!!! or Eric Medlin !! -320 feet is going to help , until NHRA can slow the cars down with smaller fuel pumps or whatever they decide !!! Hey the pro stocks are still 1/4 mile, so it's not like it's gone ! I'm all for slowing down the fuel cars ,and going back to 1/4 mile !! And it's still drag racing whether it's 1000 ft. or 1320 ft. so lets just enjoy what we have , instead of slamming NHRA for making a safe decision for now !!! NHRA is not the oldest sanctioning body because they make dumb decisions !!!!
     
  9. Mad~Max
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    Prudhomme is a smart man. But he's got no respect from NHRA bean counters.

    He said ten years ago that top fuel hasn't changed much since the early days. He thinks it's time for a new design, but it was Wally who said that the old design is what sells tickets. Don said selling tickets isn't what drag racing is supposed to be about. It's a participant sport. Wally said by changing the looks of the top fuel will confuse the spectators and they probably won't come anymore. Wally was interested in a sport that sold tickets, and always adjusted the rules so not too many people got killed. If a spectator got killed he was more pro-active than if a driver got killed.
     
  10. FiddyFour
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    and i suppose you believe that wresting is real too

    the NHRA needs to remove its head from its ***, soonish.
     
  11. willowbilly3
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    I say let 'em go. They're big boys and know the dangers.
    Maybe they need to make it zero to whatever you can do in the 1/4 and back to zero. Get the same amount of technology into stopping fast as they do into going fast. If you think about it they have the same 2 tires slowing the vehicle PLUS the chutes, should be able to plant a top fueler to a stop in much less than the 1/4 mile they used building up the speed.
     
  12. FiddyFour
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    drivers know the risks... it aint like they are tossin a leg over a wooden carousel pony and trottin down the track that way. face it, racing at this level is ****in dangerous. period. personally, i like a bit of risk with my motorsports, or have we become so ****in limp wristed that we expect the NHRA to create a danger free drag race? get real, stop being lemmings and grow a pair
     
  13. Unkl Ian
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    “The way I see it, we have been racing to 1,000 feet for years and hanging on for the last 320 feet,” said John Force Racing crew chief Austin Coil. “This change is nothing but good. When you get to the top end is when the track get a little slippery and you get parts breakage. This change really won’t affect performance numbers that much for the fans. The speeds and times won’t be that much slower. This change just provides everyone more room to slow down and we can still race hard. The Funny Cars and Top Fuel Dragsters are on rev limiters at the top end and like I’ve said, when you are on the rev limiter you really aren’t seriously racing anyway.”

    Coil has forgotten more about Nitro racing,
    than 99% of people here combined,ever knew.
    http://www.compe***ionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7097&Itemid=6
     
  14. Mad~Max
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    There you go: ban rev limiters.

    The other engine mods will follow. Never heard of a rev limiter in 64...
     
  15. kustombypook
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    **** that. A race is a contest to see who is the fastest at something. What is the point of any car race if you are trying to make the cars go slower. If that is what you want why even put engines in them, just have some people push them down the track and see who wins.
    Nobody.
     
  16. tfeverfred
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    It's always sad when a person dies participating in the sport he or she loved. However, going into a panic to prevent deaths in the future is also sad. Cookie cutter cars, horsepower restrictions and shorter tracks!? In drag racing!? It's ********! Hell, the first two are why I don't watch NASCAR. If you want death free racing, take all the tech data from each car, load it into a damn computer and let it select the results. They could play old track and race videos while the computer does it's thing.

    Look, yes, there have been what.... 3 deaths in the last 1 1/2 years? A couple bad accidents? Okay, how many races were run in that same time frame? The ratio of deaths or even mishaps is VERY low considering the number of cars and tracks.

    In my opinion, NHRA doesn't want to or can't fix most of the older tracks due to cost. Yea, freakin' money pops it's head up again! Making the track shorter won't change what the basic element is in all sports where the quest for speed is chased. RISK. Every person who is a participant or spectator knows these risks and excepts them. If not, they would do better playing Golf. Oh, more golfers were killed by lightning last year than drivers who crashed a race car.

    Will a shorter track save lives? Maybe, but so would switching to push carts with roll cages. Hell, let's REALLY panic and eliminate the exotic fuels! Just go with gas cars! Oh wait... gasoline explodes too and the cars are still fast. Guess were back to golf again.
     
  17. willowbilly3
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    Anything you do to limit cars just ends up being a frikken joke; ie 8.90 cars. Basically a 6 second car with a computer that shuts the engine down for a predetermined amount of time after the launch. Lame to watch.
     
  18. Mad~Max
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    Drag racing has always been about the winner being the first car to p*** the finish line, or not red light. It has nothing to do with "fastest" or speed. Speed is merely a by-product. Many "drag" races are won at the starting line, when the other guy red lights, or the tires go up in smoke. You can do a 21 second ET at 80 MPH in a Top Fuel dragster and still win.

    Sorry, I get tired of hearing about "speed" in drag racing from people who have never been to a drag strip. Stop it.
     
  19. belair
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    "Prudhomme is a smart man. But he's got no respect from NHRA bean counters."
    Probably one of the greatest compliments you could give to the man. I don't know what life is like at 330mph and 4.4 seconds; but the ones who do ought to be driving this debate, and, as in the beginning of the sport, (along with the fans?) decide what the sport looks like, not the hangers on and the administrators. This is one case where the inmates ought to be running the ***ylum. Only the people crazy/brave enough to do what these guys do should be contolling their destiny, NOT THE FREAKIN BEAN COUNTERS!
     
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  20. Brad54
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    I'm always amazed at how professionals in a particular occupation can ***** about the working conditions. If you don't like it, change careers.
    Racing is DANGEROUS. Particularly at that level.
    Slowing cars down for safety sake? Why bother racing? Or, more to the point, why bother having drivers? Put a couple of remote controls in the cars, let the guys sit in the safety of an air conditioned tower, and to it.
    Racing is about getting to the finish line first. NASCAR ruined that.
    I don't mind the 1,000 foot mark. It's a finish line, and it's about getting there first. But slowing the cars down just so they can continue running the quarter mile is like giving gladiators rubber swords.

    -Brad
     
  21. zman
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    Here here.... if it was safe it'd be boring and slow...
     
  22. Mad~Max
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    Cars are already slowed down. The rules are very antiquated. Otherwise the rocket and jet cars would be winning all the races.

    Alas, the rules only allow internal combustion engines. The reason they keep these 24 quart oil carriers, is the flames they produce when the driver dies in the BBQ.

    Spectators like fire, hell we created a holiday for fire-- 4th of July... Drag racing top fuel is designed to pack the stands, in anticipation of 24 quarts doing another BBQ before their eyes.
     
  23. L.A.-Bar
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    Thousand feet ? It eats the big bodinni.........................
     
  24. FiddyFour
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    i gotta play a ******** card here...

    you really think the guys who were drag racing on the streets really gave a **** about beating the light? nope. it was about having the fastest car, and proving it. the rest is, business.
     
  25. zman
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    I think you are very confused. Fireworks were added to the holiday and not vice versa. Get a ****ing clue. :eek:
     
  26. FiddyFour
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    you got a really ****in twisted view of the world from where you're at. i can just see it now.
    "we need a day so we can blow **** up, set **** on fire and bbq people... i know, lets do it in summer when its hot and dry! july 4th should do it just swell!!!"

    :rolleyes:
     
  27. Mad~Max
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    I used to street race a lot. It was the quickest car that won, not the fastest. Hell, I had 4:30 gears, and the valves would float at 100 MPH. All it took was hooking up, and going straight. I still remember a bunch of kids going up in smoke, or missing a shift. The speeds were real slow in street racing. The muscle cars were big and heavy back then.
     
  28. FiddyFour
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    who the **** said a single thing about *blech* muscle cars???

    i'm afraid you're a number of years too late for the era of racing i'm talkin about
     
  29. D-Russ
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    I don't. It will be impossible to compare all the records that have been set and broken by the best in the sport throughout the years to the new speeds and ETs. That's part of what I enjoy about drag racing – seeing how the performance has improved with technology over time. The historical aspect of the sport will become irrelevant in a discussion about 1000 foot drag racing.

    I realize it's impossible to lengthen the shut down areas for most of the tracks, but I think that, along with whatever additional driver safety components can be added to the cars, would be the best way to address the safety concerns.

    Drag racing has always been about going as quick and fast as you can in a quarter mile, improving on your speed/ET over time and beating the guy in the other lane. It's kind of sad to think that we'll never see 350+ mph in the quarter.
     
  30. GassersGarage
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    Never cared for fuelers. I'm a doorslammer kinda guy.
     
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