Has anyone used these on a 32 frame?

Why not angle the welded axle mounted plates so that the forward end of the beams mount closer to the center, like PnJ ladder bars? How long are these suckers? Drill some holes, dang, I like 'em.

 

Here are a couple more pictures. The bars are 36" long from the centerline of the axle to the center of the front bracket.

 

Like 39 cent says they REALLY need to be angled to the centre otherwise sooner or late somethings got to give. On the other hand I'd bet they wouldn't bend like 36 radius rods do!

 

Since y'all have determined these as twin I-beams, what years? Also, and this may be important, was the left and right side beam the same forging or was the left different from the right for whatever reason?

 

Here is the best picture I could find of a twin I beam Ford truck front end. While there are a lot of similarities the ends that attach to the rear axle are totally different.

this:


made from this:





What do you think?

 

The axle mounting plate could have been welded on and smoothed before they were chromed.

 

I think, the more I study these, the more I like. I'd say keep the drop in them too for more length and to look more like old bones....

 

Here are a pair I have been saving for exactly the same purpose.
I had never seen them used before but it seems ok to me.
They came from a late 60's ford truck, I think. Maybe early 70's.

With the spindle one weighs 33 lbs.
I have a set of P&J's, one with bracket, and hardware weighs 13 lbs.

you can see by the pictures they have a kink in them at both ends and they are not opposite. They almost look like the same part but they have different part numbers.

With some holes you could reduce the weight a little but they still do look cool. I would use them.

That is all I know.

 

hey maddog how long are are those from the bushing to the perch hole?

 

"Nice" exhaust work

 

Bushing to perch hole is 37"
Bushing to kingpin is 43.5"

 

I would be happy to trade someone something for these.
I just recently got the P&J's and will most likely be using those.

 

MADDOG, thanks for all the great reference on this deal!

I'm using PnJ ladder bars in my '37, but I'm thinking for maybe the '32 frame, these would be really neat and look great to boot.

 

I am re-thinking my rear suspension and am thinking of using these.
A couple of you have suggested that they need to angle towards the center.
I understand that, but I have so little space and such a short distance in the center I would like to use them on the outside of the frame running paralell to the centerline of the car. Very similar to the ones originally posted by Jeem.

If I could create a pivot capable of allowing twist at the front frame mount, would this take care of that?

 

Ahh Dang! The cat's been out of the bag for a long time I see. I have a pair sitting in the garage that I was going to use on my next front end as split wishbones with a beam axle. And here I was thinking I had a cool original idea!

 

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Looking straight DOWN on these, seems like you could take ONE of the arms and make (4) tiny cuts on the webbing. On the inside (2 single slices) and outside (2 wedges) of the beam, at the kink, get it cherry red and bend the beam to be a mirror image of the other. You'd have to go back in and fill the other side (probably with the wedges you took out). THEN, you'd have two arms are about the same length as PnJ ladder bars with a drop. Fabricate a bracket to weld and blend these arms to that would allow you to bolt them to the rear end (more fabb'd brackets), VOILA.

Easy, right?!

 

Unsprung weight! Give me a break. We're not talking race car here Dave.

 

I am not sure, but those could have been made by Steve at Hot Rods To Hell. Steve now has his shop in Anderson, CA, but did have his shop in Oxnard, CA for a number of years.
Give him a call, I know he has been working on a product for early Fords.
His Truck Arm has been featured in a few magazines under first gen Camaro's and tri-five's.

http://www.hotrodstohell.net/

 

Notice the axle housings are '35-6 rotated 90*. Smart.

 

Yes, Boyce was quite a guy!, I remember when we voted him into the LAR club, he was very excited about becoming a member, his red roadster was a knockout with those "yeller" wheels!!-----------Don

 

on the original pictures posted? that's def not a banjo rear.

 

Its a Ford 9"

 

Instead if extensively modifing the end of that area to attach to the axle, couldn't you make a bracket for the rear axle and just use the original kingpin?

 

Wow, those look alot better than Chevy truck trailing arms and probably don't weigh any more especially drilled. I wonder if they are long enough to weld a spring pad to the top or better yet, a coil over mount to the bottom, (DUCK!!!)

 

im not metalurgist by no means but is this somthing that could be made out of aluminum?