Maverick versus Granada Spindles

Called and been to all yards locally, NO granadas in site, other than one 82.

Have a 56 ford customline that is begging for disc brakes for christmas.

DID find a 76 maverick, will that work? Any reason not to do that, vs. granada? No idea yet what engine is in it.

I want to do the best/easiest swap, so if this is not it, please say so. I can impatiently wait for some granadas if need be.

Do you get the drop with the maverick spindles, or only granada? All I read about is granada spindles, so I assumed there must be some difference in the maverick, or maybe just harder to find...
thx

 

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the granada and the maverick have the same front spindals.

 

thanks for the info and detail.

i found a yard that would ship me a set of granada spindles, but said the dust shields would likely get ruined during removal, the disadvantage of not doing yourself. Should i do that, or get the mavericks locally, of course mavericks being about half the cost cause there is no shipping involved. Would the maverick dust shields work on the granadas? I may just get both, then sell what I dont use, that way I have all I need.

 

Same front end, they are identical spindles. So the dust shields would swap over. Do you really need the dust shields though? Not if it's a summer only car.


cheers
Ed N.

 

Thats what I was wondering, do I need them? It will be a good weather only car. I didnt know if others typically used them, or didnt care if they had them.

 

No you don't need them.

 

great, thanks for the info all.

 

First, C9..............damn that's alot of work to find all of that....i had several of those already, but i cut and pasted it to print it out. Thanks a bunch.

Second, i am from NC, and now in SC, have lived in TN, and WV.....and unless your gonna be driving ALOT!!!!! on gravel roads, you don't need the dust shields. They, for the most part, are for aesthetics and i have actually had more problems with them, than without. If you do happen to drive on dirt roads alot and still feel you should have them, make your own, but don't let them cover the entire disc. I made them to cover this much, imagine if you were looking at a clock, make them to cover from 1 o'clock to 6 o'clock. I did this on the cars i used to autocross and rallye and they worked great. the rules for SCCA required you to have them, but didn't have to cover everything.

Hope this helps.....

 

I dont "plan" to drive on gravel or dirt roads at all really. They finally paved all the remaining gravel roads i traveled on. Well, my parents driveway is a 1/2 mile gravel, which is like a road, but other than that.

Not a bad idea to make your own. I am going to see if those maverick spindles are still there, if so i should be able to get the dust caps from it anyway, but if not, i will probably just roll without them

 

they are the same. i have a disc brake ft end on a d/d with no dust shields. works good for me.

 

You can add Torino's (70's) and LTD II's to your list of what will work also.
You may want to get the little brackets off the frame of the donor car that hold
the brakes lines also.

 

I have some perfect dust shields if you wanna buy them, i installed them on my 57 then promptly un-installed them as there was a rubbing noise. Noise went away after I removed them. Short version: they are unnecessary.

 

Just because you said caps...the shields are behind the rotor and fastened to the spindle itself...don't need them...caps are on the outside and cover the bearing/nut. Those you NEED.

 

not sure if this is correct or not but keep it in mind when looking :
6 cyl. Granada's have 10" rotors, V-8 had 11" rotors.

Lincoln Versaille spindles are same as Granada but are all 11" rotors and the ball joint hole is already the proper size so they won't have to be enlarged for your car, they should be a bolt on deal !

 

Really? I thought they were the same. That does make a difference, cause the granada I found that offered to ship the spindles, was a V6. i thought they were the same, and the yard guy said they were too, not that that makes it true.

Does the same hold true on the Mavericks, or did they even have 6 cyl offered?

 

Mavericks came in 6 cyl and 8 cyl.. Id go check the local one and look at the rear end too. That year probably has an 8 inch in it even if its a 6cyl car. They are great rear ends to have around if you can get it cheap.. I bought a bunch at 100.00 a piece but the source dried up ..
dave

 

Confirmed true: the 6 cyl Granadas had smaller discs.

 

Lincoln Versi also

 

I've got the V-8 Granada spindles on my T-bird and they are 11" disc but I wasn't sure about the straight 6 spindles, I'd just heard that and wanted to put that out in case it was true.
When I got the spindles I had to enlarge the ball joint holes, can't remember if it was upper or lower (was done in '96) I used a #3 taper tool I bought for $30 from Texas tool. Since then my buddy has used the taper on several other conversions.
I didn't find out about the Versaille spindles until after the conversion, don't quote me on this but it seems like the Versaille spindles were supposed to give an even lower ride height than the Granadas and they have the correct size ball joint holes so that would save you atleast $30 plus the hassle of reaming it, or the cost of having it done at a machine shop

 

brand new 11" Granada with instructions:

discbrakeswap.com

 

I do appreciate you mentioning that, cause I was sure going to order those and have them shipped.

So, if the maverick has a 6 in it, are they likely to be the smaller spindles too?

 

don't forget comet spindles,same as maverick.

 

Well, searching napa online, they offer 2 different rotors for the granada, but when you put in 76 maverick, there is only one rotor offered, and its 11". So going by that, the maverick would be 11", regardless of motor.

 

I'm going to respectfully disagree with that. The Ford microfiche only shows one part number for Granada from 75 - 80. And the Maverick is the same number. Aftermarket only shows one number as well.

Someone mentioned Lincoln Versailles brakes. They used the same brakes, but the spindles were different for larger ball joints.


cheers
Ed N.

 

what was on the Lincoln's

 

Here is the info http://www.napaonline.com shows. 79 Granada has 1 rotor choice, which is 11", 80 granada has one choice for rotor sizes, which is 11", and the 76 maverick has ONE choice for rotor size which is also 11". Hurts my head.

 

The front rotors are all the same, 1975-1980 - 11". The smaller rotors you see in the catalog are for the REAR of the car, when equipped with rear discs.

 

Crap, your right! How did i miss that rear rotor in the title? Edited above post, as it was inaccurate data.

 

I don't think you can get the drop from a Versailles spindles like you can from the Granada spindles.

Making drop spindles out of Granada spindles is very easy, it takes less work to make a dropped spindle than making the spindle ride at stock ride height. to make the drop spindle ream as little as possible from the lower ball joint hole as possible so the spindle sits as high as possible on the lower ball joint stud. you will need a hardened washer under the ball joint castle nut about 3/8" thick. I had a local machine shop do the work for me since I don't own the correct size ream, they charged me about $35.