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ECONOLINE RUNS!! 250 Swap???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by srosa707, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. srosa707
    Joined: Jun 5, 2005
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    from Sacramento

    Heres some pics i took today. Where is the battery supposed to be located? Has anyone found me seats yet!!!?!?!!:confused::D

    Sorry for the crappy pics. Its a tight fit; if you have an econoline, you know what i mean!! It looks like the motor mounts are factory. Hopefully this helps someone.
     

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  2. Hellfish
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    The battery goes in a little box behind the driver's seat. There should be some holes in the floor that the cables run through
     
  3. rev106
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    Really if it runs, I'd say leave it until you have to do the swap. These trucks are a blast but they were built when the world moved slower. I have a 250 in mine and it's the oddball of the s6 family. At some point I'd like to put a 300 in there but not until this motor gasps its last. Being that I drive it a few times a month, I'll be running this one for some time.

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  4. srosa707
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    Wow, that thing is clean!
     
  5. d-smoke
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
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    just fab up some milk crates so we can take it to the show this weekend you big sissy!
     
  6. srosa707
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    I need a windshield frame first!
     
  7. There's a guy over on fordsix.com who is putting a built 300 in his Econo. Lots of great tech on making the swap.
     
  8. 1LOWCHIEF
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    This may be a really stupid idea, but... I have a bare cab from a '55 or '56 (I can never remember which) Ford F100. If you want it, you can have it, and perhaps if you cut the windshield channel pieces out small enough you might be able to piece enough metal together to hold in your windshield and then fab up whatever filler bits you need. I'm sure if you triple measure before you cut you might be able to get some pieces that might fit pretty damn close to the Econo, like maybe the upper windshield corners that are completely rotted away?

    Or, maybe I'm a delusional (but optimistic) idiot. If you want to give it a shot, let me know.
     
  9. SixFive
    Joined: Aug 19, 2004
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    Hey man. i got one of those 250ci sixes in my Falcon. they have the cast-in intake so i made up an adapter for twin carbs and put a 4speed behind it, picks up pretty good in a 61 'ranchero'. might split the manifold one day. popular motors in australia....
     
  10. You can tell it's a 250 small block six by the 4 bolt water pump. All others are 3 bolt. Your carb is a Carter RBS.
    The 250's are not a direct bolt in because they share the same bellhousing as Ford small block V8s 289/302 but use a zero balance flywheel. A '66 200 is a direct bolt in for an upgrade to the earlier Falcon 144/170 motors because they have the dual pattern blocks that accept any small block six tranny. Other than that any pre-80 200 will bolt in. The 200/250 has different distributor shaft that 144/170. The main difference in cylinder heads is combustion chamber size, valves sizes and carb throat; heads - they all bolt up 144/170/200/250.

    www.classicinlines.com is the place for parts. Clifford Performance just don't get it anymore. I ran a 250 in my '66 Ranchero with a T5 and tri-power. Cruised 80mph and got 26 mpg. Here's a pic in a Falcon post, page 9.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80033&page=9
     
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  11. srosa707
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    from Sacramento

    Thanks for the help, but im about halfway done rebuilding the corners. Its a pain in the ass but its getting there. Working these crazy hours (so i can go to the Primer Nats!) is making progress slow. I should be out there all next week in the afternoons working on it though. Feel free to stop by.



    Lots of good info, thanks JAHEARNE.
     
  12. Mooseandsqurl53
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    from N.J.

    I had 2 Econolines. One was a '64 with the 170/200CI engine. The other was a '67 with the 240 CI. The vans were identical. Oddly enough, the "64 had a 4 speed column shift with 1st gear being a granny gear. Never saw one before or since. I'd love to have another. They had a really nice ride. I'm reading here that the 240 isn't an easy swap. Never having done it, listen to the guys who have.
     
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  13. Hellfish
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    depends on what you had to begin with. 65-67s could have a 170 or 240. All you need to do to swap in a 240 into a 65-67 is the 240 trans, 240 crossmember, 240 radiator, and 240 throttle linkage. BUT, if you have a 61-64, swapping in ANYTHING but a 144-170-200 is a huge pain in the butt.

    That 4 speed was a rare option, or a conversion from a second generation Econo. c4 trans were rare, too
     

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