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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. 106" sounds too long to me, but then you'd know better than I. My guess would be that the wheelbase on these cars was pretty well stated by then(monkey see, monkey do), and "106 would be a little long.

    Then again, in the world of 'dirt miles' back then, stability might have been the issue and this could have been a one off deal.
     
  2. Joshua Shaw
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    Cool picture though Speedwagon! I love those "hump" tailers.. If you tried to run one of those today, guys would freak out! "That ain't gonna work! Thats a death trap" Yet, these guys did it fine on rutted up dirt roads with wires wheels. Neat! Thanks for the pic.

    Oh, and I'm sure there were few old timers that watched this car and swore to the day they died that they saw the "Southeren Star" race!:D:D


    JD
     
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  4. jimg12
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    The first 2 pictures of the Southern Star were taken before the war. Notice the flat tail and the flat nose. The third picture was taken at Mitchel, In in early 1946. Notice the round nose and the headrest on the tail. Dad did the work during the war while he was working at the Southern Star meat packing company. Dad's car is on the pole [fast time], that is Cliff Griffith in Hector's City of Roses on the outside. The car in third is the Delegrange 100 Hisso, it won the 100 lapper and Dad's car ran second. John is wright about the Why Worry jacket. It was the first boat to run a 100 lap. Dad did a lot of work on the boat which was powered by a full V/8 Hisso. Not sure id the last picture was taken the same day, but in those days a dricer could qualify more than one car. That 3 car looks like Doc. Bowles offy. Cantrell wore a helmet painted like that untill he stopped driving boats in the 60's.
    Josh if you still have my card you can put it on if you want.
    Jim Graybeal
     


  5. I'm not sure this is a '72 . The cage and wheels , in fact everything but the Ward/Watson hood and nose looks more like mid '80s.

    Still, I WISH ,I WISH, I....... nevermind. Yep, nice lines.


    Seemed to me, the rear torsion bars were in closer to the rearend on late '70s Stantons.

    Also, I didn't know Stanton was in business in '72.

    They look killer with a nose, dontchyathink?
     
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    I was very honored (and very lucky) to be invited into hotrod veteran Tommy Sparks shop to film a scene for my hotrod full feature film DEUCE OF SPADES. As some of you might already know Tom is the flathead GURU around here. His very cool midget ended up in the film, I thought I would share a few shots of it, screengrabs from my footage.

    It is my understanding that he had sold the car a long long time ago and finally was recently able to purchase it back. Now the car and the owner are once again reunited.

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  7. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Stanton didn't build his first sprint car until 76 which Schuman drove to the CRA championship I believe, although he was building southwest supers in 72.
     
  8. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Speaking of E-bay-- Came across this, a vintage quick change/in and out box device for a midget. Can't say I've ever seen or heard of one before. I can't ever get E-bay links to work, but here's the #--160280177783
     

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  9. A friend of mine had a '79 Stanton, seemed like the rear cage braces were more vertical than the later cars. Much like a Tognotti


    However, these are great for old style conversions since the parameters are still the same. My car is a Stanton copy and I was pleased with how an Edmunds body fit

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  10. Yes, I know it needs to be finished. So many cars, so little time and money.
     
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  12. racinfool
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    I havn't posted in a few months but check this site out often. wanted to share a few pix of one of my cars. Its a 60's Michigan style supermodified. The kicker is that its street leagal. as well as being a blast to drive. racinfool
    Tom Bliss
     

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  13. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Looks like you could use some rear torsion bars/arms, other than that it looks pretty complete. BTW-Did you get the body parts from the guy who is now repoping them down in (I believe) southwest MO.?
     
  14. Yes, I have a set of those too. Midway Vintage Racing is their name. I like theirs better and I have a car that is more period correct and thus more deserving than this Speedway body(although I think it's pretty good).

    My problem is I LIKE THEM ALL!!!

    So now the plan is to turn this into a Champ car, keeping the nose, using Midway's cowl peice. Use the Midway Edmunds body (black gelcoat) on a Nance/Edmunds copy car we have.
     
  15. It would look much like this but with a 96" wb. Since I'll never get to own a Grant King, this could do

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  16. Right now it is a coil over car, and I really have liked the simplicity.

    The other car is rocker spring front/torsion rear.

    Not to mention that I also have a '33 widebody coupe from a generation earlier
     
  17. This is the Nance copy, Schroeder, Halibrand, Nance-it's either put up or on there
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  18. jusjunk
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    Could you email me some bigger pics of this ... I like it
    Dave
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    remove the nospam............
     
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    Holy shit the first one is right down the road from me.... I wonder who is selling or owns it . I grew up about 8 miles from ann arbor and now im about 30 miles away ..
    Dave
     
  20. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Sounds like you have a nice collection of "toys" to play with. Do you have a vintage club/assn. in your area where you can take them out to play with them?
     

  21. Things are stirring, recently there has been a motherload of parts found that COULD build several cars. Hopefully we could get something going down here but sometimes it seems the cars will outlive us!LOL

    Still, as the movement grows, the need to finish will only get stronger.

    Kansas has a pretty strong group, but we need one here in between Kansas and Dallas. We've got some good stuff here, but it needs to be put together.


    I wish the NCRA would put together a vintage series, thus we could keep the logo we came to know as our own. Much like USAC is for the north, and CRA is for the west.

    A few shows in the places that are still around and maybe the newer tracks could spark this thing. Some guys want to race, others like me just want to throw some rooster tails and have a good time. The racing addiction would come anyway.

    The crazy part to me is taking genuine hard to find racing peices and putting them in harms way again. I say, use the newer peices and try to give them an older feel so we can preserve the high-dollar jewelry, like Halibrands.
     
  22. indybigjohn
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    Josh was right, Jim has a cool business card. He sent it to me to post, and here it is...

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  23. Russ Gaylord Fontana
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    emailed the guy about this car, but he couldn't verify date of build/history...the man he bought it off at the museum taking all this information with him...but if you know different??
     
  24. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Around here the vintage scene is pretty lame. Theres a club here, with some really nice, historic cars of various kinds, but they don't get much track time. I can understand not risking valuable equipment, but they need to be able to get, at least, some "spirited" hot laps on a regular basis. I'm aware of the KARs group through Warrens RFP site and it looks to be pretty active org. If things work out, I'm thinking of going out to Wichita at the end of the month and check them out.
     
  25. PK
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    Page 100; outstanding!
    PK
     

  26. The movement is growing pretty good nationwide, and yes good hotlaps are always needed. People want to see the motion, others want to know/remember what it feels like. I think this is a hell of a promoting tool for local tracks. Just needs to get a push in the right direction. Maybe even set aside a "race" for those who wish to. Without the younger people being bitten, it won't grow like it could. Younger people love these old race cars, I know they love mine. Tracknoses and open wheels don't look like they will be losing favor anytime soon. We need these cars seen at regular shows on occasion.
     
  27. Now that I bought a hot rod as opposed to building one, I can get back to work on my "Edmunds convertible" street-legal sprint car/super. It will be back on the frame table shortly.
     

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  28. Rootie Kazoootie
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    The Daytona Antique Auto Racing Assn. looks to be good role model for vintage oval racing clubs, lots of dates and a great assortment of open wheelers. You're probably aware of it, if not, check out their web site.
    I agree that the vintage movement is growing, if there's any doubt, look at the prices of some those used up old parts:eek: that we use to regard as junk:(
     
  29. Yours and mine are very similar in the idea we want to take. Got any more pics? How did you make that grill?
     

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