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354 392 HEMI Itakes

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by The37Kid, Sep 28, 2008.

  1. The37Kid
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    Someday I'd like to get around to rebuilding the 354 HEMI that is in the garage. What are my options for Pre 1965 intakes? Advice and photos would be great, NO BLOWERS. :)
     
  2. Relic Stew
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    I'm planning on using a factory dual quad from a '55 300.

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  3. Clark
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    I've got an old Crower U-fab 6x2.
    Clark
     
  4. panic
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    panic

    "Pre 1965 intakes"


    ???

    1954 300?
    1st year = 1955.
     
  5. Bass
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    Here's a list I compiled of aftermarket intake manifolds for the Chrysler Hemi 331/354/392:

    Edmunds 2x2
    Edmunds 2x4

    Horne 4x2
    Cragar 4x2 #405 (same as Horne, rebadged by Bell Auto as Cragar)

    Weiand 3x2 #WC3D
    Weiand 4x2 #WC245
    Weiand 6x2 #WC6 Drag Star-low rise log manifold
    Weiand 6x2 Drag Star-high rise log manifold
    Weiand 8x2 #WC8 Drag Star log manifold
    Weiand 2x4 #WC2QE / 7263 (available in the "Say Weiand" logo, and also "block letter" logo)

    Edelbrock 6x2 #EC6-L low-rise log manifold
    Edelbrock 6x2 #EC6 high rise log manifold
    Edelbrock 6x2 #X-3 Crossram
    Edelbrock 8x2 #EC8 low-rise log manifold

    Offenhauser 6x2 log manifold

    Crower U-Fab log manifolds

    That's all I can think of that was made for the Chrysler Hemi, without getting into blower manifolds or injector set-ups. If I left anything out, feel free to post it.
     
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  6. The37Kid
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    Plan is to build the car as if it was done back in 1961-64, wouldn't want something that was on the market after that time.

    Bass, Thanks for the list!
     
  7. Soviet
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    Cragar 8X2
    Cunningham 4X1
    Chrysler Pan-Am Series 2X4
    Chrysler NASCAR Series 2X4
    I've seen the Edelbrock 6X2 crossram referred to as PN# CR6
    Mac Kay Webber setup
    2 piece 2X2 factory marine intake
    Offenhauser 2X4
    Offenhauser 3X2
    Karl Kiekhaefer 2X4


    If anyone needs pics, PM me and I'll post them up.
     
  8. scootermcrad
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    Post pics!!! That Cunningham sounds interesting... hmmmmm
     
  9. Bass
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    OK, I've seen the Cunningham 4x1, the MacKay Weber intake, and the factory cast iron 2x4 and 2x2 intakes you mentioned. I think the Cragar 8x2 was called the "Octo-gasser' and was made in like 4 different pieces....I forgot about that one.

    But, I've never actually seen an Offenhauser 3x2 for a Chrysler. I seem to remember a 2x4, but not a 3x2. Never seen the Kiekhaefer intake either...is that a marine manifold?
     
  10. Soviet
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    Cunningham
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    Cragar 8X2
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    Karl Kiekhaefer
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    Offy 3X2
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    I have more of the Cunningham setup, in fact I have pictures of several different ones, in better shape. Let me know if there is more interest in them - I have an intake fetish.
     
  11. Soviet
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    Aw hell, I can't sleep anyway - here are the other Cunningham pics. The word is that there were two versions cast, one in iron and one in aluminum. I bid up to $1K on the aluminum one 5 years ago. It went for $1400 I believe.

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  12. Bass
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    Neither the Kiekhafer or that Offy 3x2 are for a Chrysler...look at the bolt pattern. The Offy is for a Dodge Red Ram, and the Kiekhafer is probably for a Dodge as well.

    I still don't think Offy ever made a 3x2 for a Chrysler Hemi....and I'd really like to see a pic of an Offy 2x4 for a Chrysler if anybody has one.

    The Cunningham intake is pretty cool! And that Cragar 8x2 intake is the one I was referring to....sometimes called the 'Octo-gasser.'
     
  13. Soviet
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    You are very much correct. I have a fairly large Hemi picture file, and some stuff ends up where it does not belong. Thanks for the correction!

    NASCAR
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    Chrysler Pan-Am Car. Note the water passeges.
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  14. Soviet
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    This one's for a Dodge, but I have seen pictures of a Chrysler version. I just forgot to save them - doh!
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    What I have saved as the CR6/X3
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    Awesome homemade crossram
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    One of the A311 Engines. Injected, but factory!
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    The other A311 I have saved.
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    Tilted Cragar, marine application?
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  15. Dreddybear
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    I've got serious wood right now...

    Thanks for introducing me to these rarities.
     
  16. madjack
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    I CNC Plasma cut Intake flanges for both Desoto and early Chrysler hemis from 3/8 mild steel. Kind of a build your own setup. I've used Jap M/C carb racks from mid 90's GSXR Suzukis in a cross ram pattern that work well up to 360 cid.
     
  17. George
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    A guy had 1 of these, still on the board like this one, @ the Moultrie, Ga swap meet for a couple years. Didn't get nibbles @ 2500$!
     
  18. Royalshifter
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    Orgasm...is all I can say...did they make inline 4x2 for a 331? I need one.
     
  19. panic
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    as if it was done back in 1961-64

    Ahh, thanks for clarifying that. Remember, that does allow AFB, "modern" Holley, and cross-rams but IIRC too early for tunnel ram.
     
  20. scootermcrad
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    That Cunningham is RAD!!!! I like that!! That Pan Am intake is awesome too! Never seen that one.

    Boris... thanks for posting the pics!! Now post MORE!! :D:D

    Question... how many of these intakes that have been posted would be pre-64 vintage accessories? When was the market really hot for after market speed equipment for the early Hemi? I was thinking mid to late 60's. Was it in fact earlier?
     
  21. Bass
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    All of the intakes I posted, with the exception of the Weiand 2x4, Weiand high rise 6x2, and the Edelbrock X-3 cross-ram were available in or prior to 1960. I have 1960 catalogs from Weiand, Edelbrock, and Cragar.

    I know for a fact that the Edmunds and Horne intakes were made in the early and mid-50's.

    The Weiand 2x4 and high rise 6x2 were available sometime in the early 60s, and the Edelbrock X-3 and Cragar 8x2 came out somewhere around the same time in the early to mid-60s.
     
  22. scootermcrad
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    Awesome! Thanks B! That's great info! Never really thought too much about it until this thread came up.
     
  23. jambottle
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    this converted 671 blower manifold,would seem to work good.it could be done for 3x2 as well.
     

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  24. George
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    The iron Cunningham is supposed to be real scarce.
    There were wet & dry OEM 2X1 intakes on trucks. 3 are on EBay now.
     
  25. Shaggy
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    Allard probably made intakes for their cars too
     
  26. Relic Stew
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  27. scootermcrad
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    That is AWESOME!!! I love how the water is setup on that too...
     
  28. Jeff Norwell
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  29. jj mack
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    FWIW
    I have a very nice

    Weiand 4x2 #WC245

    That I am considering selling!

    PM if interested
     

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