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Homebuilt Quickchange... looking for old how to or drawings from old hot rod mags

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by RilleCustoms, Oct 9, 2008.

  1. RilleCustoms
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    Looking for old articals for homebuilt quickchanges ......specs , pics or drawings from old hot rod mags or books would be great . I am going to make my own homebuilt quickchange out of a old banjo rear , so I just need some specs or pics to get some diffrent ideas to go by ........... spec's or write ups would be great help , thanks .......
     
  2. alchemy
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    Borrow a Halibrand and make all your measurements fit that. Then, you will have a good source (Speedway and other repro-Hal suppliers) for the lower shaft, gears, bearings, and such. Other quickies from the day also had the same specs, so you wouldn't really be "cheating".
     
  3. Larsdk
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    There was an article in American Rodder back in the nineties about that. It was a guy in Idaho, i think, and he later started a company, doing the same. But i cant recall the name. And i dont have the time to search for it right now.
    Lars
     
  4. alchemy
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    This was Wayne Atkinson, who started the Hot Rod Works. Still in business with new owners, but I don't think they hand-construct quickies from old banjos. Mr. Atkinson now lives in retirement in Iowa. I've asked, and he said he doesn't do quickies for money anymore.

    http://www.hotrodworks.com/

    About the only place I know of that professionally builds quickies from old banjos is Wilson Welding in Texas.
     
  5. Kevin Lee
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    I have an old fabricated quickchange. I plan to eventually get it in working order.

    Something to consider here. I believe the quill shaft in mine is just an old six splined Ford driveshaft which has been shortened and re-splined. It makes sense that this is where the six splined "standard" gears came from. And taking a close look at it there is really not much work to do to make one of these if you have access to the right tools. Critical measurement would be between the pinion and quill centers which from memory I think is 3".
     
  6. NoSurf
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    We need pics Holmes.....
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    I've never found any old tech, and I have a LOT of old magazines. I think by the time there was substantial tech writing, all the racers had Halibrand Model A's.
    There were at least 2 modern sources...the one mentioned above, and Wilson the Lincoln brake guy. I think I read on here that he stopped doing this too.
     
  8. Elrod
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    Yup. Wilson said, "NO MORE!" :D


    .....maybe that will add another part to the holy grail post, the Speed Demon Wilson Welding Quick Change. :D
     
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  9. Here's an article I did on a Klentz Quick Change about 15 years or more ago. If you have IE you can expand the pages enough to read it.
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  10. hugh m
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    Used to have a Highland quickchange in my '37 Stockcar,if I remember right it was made from parts from two early Ford 3/4 ton rears,was heavy,but worked fine. Think it was made up in Springfield,M***.in the fifties. Pappy Hough also made some that loaded from the front,in the early days. I know someone here will have better info and pics of both.
     
  11. Dean Lowe
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    Tom Mc Mullin ran a Klentz in his roadster for a while, when it had the blown Ford in it.
     
  12. I may finally have something over ya Bruce! I have an article in an old magazine showing one being built. I am currently going through them all and will see if I can round it up:)
     
  13. A Chopped Coupe
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    I thought that Atkinson sold his jigs/parts on Ebay a year or so ago. It went for a very reasonable price. The only other person making them that way is Wilson&Welding out of Flower Mound, TX.

    I have an article on Atkinson that was in one of the car mag's..................I'll see if I can find it.
     
  14. Bruce Lancaster
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    That was a different model, one that I think existed only as a few prototypes. Tom M's was an aluminum bell that held a regular Halibrand-looking QC gearbox on the back of a '57 Chevy rearend. I ***ume they cut away the stamped part and drilled the flange area. R&P were '48 Ford, axles Chevy.
    The one shown above was around into the 1960's as an early Ford part that bolted between torque tube and banjo front, allowing you to save a few bucks in exchange for a quicky that wasn't very quick at all. Look at the undrilled ears on the front of the one show...Ford torque tube bolt pattern!
     
  15. That article was in a 90s SRM I believe. I have that one as well.
     
  16. RilleCustoms
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    Does anyone have any more new pics or parts to look at ?
     
  17. Speedrome
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    I can get some but it will be next week when the owner gets back from Hershey. He has a QC that was built by Tommy "Red" Thompson from Wichita Falls, TX. Red was a racer who owned a wrecking yard and did some conversions. It is the center section.

    Bart
     
  18. 22 track
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    American Rodder: March 97 Page 69 Vintage Quick-Change Rearend
     
  19. RilleCustoms
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    Any one have that issue ? I looked on evil bay but no luck .....I would like to see the cover , or if someone could scan the articale and send it to me , that would be a great help ....
     
  20. slepe67
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  21. Great shot of the Klentz Slepe67. Going into my files.
     
  22. dragsterboy
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    Bought my Speed Demon about 4 years ago.I don't know how it works,still don't have the damn car done.
     

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  23. Gene Austin from Oregon does a nice, stock, flipped, banjo conversion where he ads an additional pinion without much fuss or extranious casting etc. CLEAN and SWEET. There is a good pic in a TRJ pictorial on QC's from 2005 or so...
     
  24. Larsdk
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    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD cl***=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Larsdk [​IMG]
    There was an article in American Rodder back in the nineties about that. It was a guy in Idaho, i think, and he later started a company, doing the same. But i cant recall the name. And i dont have the time to search for it right now.
    Lars

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    Thats right, but the story had pictures, that showed how he did it. I think it was American Rodder, but it might have been Hot Rod Mecanix, by Tex Smith
    Lars
     
  25. kauaiguy
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    Here's an example of a Wayne Atkinson fabricated quick-change, it's under my Model A pickup. Wayne only made a few, this one was actually the prototype. The original story on these was in Hot Rod Mechanix, I believe in '91. It uses a standard Halibrand lower shaft, six spline gears and has late style axles. It's surprisingly quiet in operation. Wayne had lots of hours in the few that he built, they were very labor intensive.
     
  26. Dago 88
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    Here's a Model A one I brought from New Zealand a while ago, It was supposed to have been built in the the states in the thirties then went to N.Z. in a midget. The guy I got it from said it was a "Ross" Quickchange, (any one heard of them ?) allthough there are no names on it.I found the inner drive shaft from a late thirties ford rear when pushed all the way to the back of the housing is the perfect length when used with an A closed drive outer shaft.
    Cheers Dago
     

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  27. RilleCustoms
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    Anyone have a copy of American rodder 1997 march, page 69 they can scan and send it to me or post it ....... thanks Steve
     
  28. Jim Dieter
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    Steve
    Is that what you are looking for ? I built a halibrand with banjo inner halfs, maverick outer halfs, axles, brakes, inner spiders, etc...speedway open drive conversion as well. I think there was an article in a rod and custom that I went by. It would have been early 80's. It worked and looked great if you are looking at that option. halibrand centers can be found, make sure it is the straddle mounted pinion type (bearing support on both sides of the pinion)
     
  29. RilleCustoms
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    If you can ? sent me pics or the articals , that would be great !
     
  30. Jim Dieter
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    It's been a long time, but I'll try to find it. If not, I know the guy who has my old car. But it is basically a banjo type side with about 3" of maverick housing welded to the end. Just enough to use the newer bearing support and provide a flange for the brake. The newer axle...you need the inner side gear that you cut down the o.d. on to fit in the early spider housing, which bolted to the halibrand ring gear. It sounds alot more complicated than it was. It all fit together without an big issues, and never failed.
     

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