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What about the 60's

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by TRAMPKING, Oct 24, 2008.

  1. TRAMPKING
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    Why do most of the car shows cut off in 62? What about us guys who are into 60's customs. I cant find parts very easy is there other fourms who cater to the 60s parts and tech.Not for musle cars but for customs beside some 60's parts can be used for other hot rod up grades.
     
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  3. JeffreyJames
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    Does it have something to do with the birth of the GTO in 63 or 64. That sort of began the Muscle car era. I used to assume it was because of American Graffiti. That whole movie was about "Factory Muscle cars" taking over the age of Hot rods coming to an end. But it seems to me that 66 is really the cut off point.
     
  4. Miss_Hot_Rod_Queen
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    I've found that I've had luck getting parts on "make specific" forums. I've got a '62 Lesabre, and I've gone to say, the v8buick forums and picked up quite a few parts and some really good tech articles.Maybe you'd have luck with that?
     
  5. They used to cut them off at '74, now they seem to get plenty of cars from before '62. Not as many hot rods or customs from the mid 60's on, mostly built up muscle cars.
     
  6. TRAMPKING
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    well my two favorite shows of the year are paso maria and mooneyes they both have cut off years im in a 67 ford wagon so no matter how hard i work on my cars cant show them
     
  7. JeffreyJames
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    That sucks. Well at least driving them beats showing them any day and no one can tell you not to do that.
     
  8. repoguy
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    It seems that most of the 50's purists seem to cut it off @ 63, as it seems that to most of them this year represents the "end of the 50's" (death of JFK & Buddy Holly, Mustang & GTO's came out in 64), but there's plenty of mid 60's stuff around here.
     
  9. V4F
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    i remember when 1948 was the cut off . not to long ago , so progress is being made .. steve
     
  10. Shaggy
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    I usually see 64 and older shows out here which is fine for me cuz of my traditional hot rodded, soon to be 301 powed, 64 camino, it's built using almost all parts 69 and earlier, even Most of the speed goods, which is more than many tradtional cars and as soon as i can finish burning off the radial it's going Bias
     
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  12. Normal Norman
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    I always thought '48 was the cut off for (shudder) street rods and '36 to '64 was the years for customs. N.N.
     
  13. Personally I am a 48 or older guy but I can accept and truly like cars, customs, street machines up until 63.
    At present, neither car I own is HAMB friendly. But hopefully, I am. ;)

    I swapped my 46 Ford straight across for a 65 box Nova with glass fenders and bumpers. Blew the 310, now has a mild 350, M-22, posi 3:55 rear. It was a fresh car and I took it to bring back some memories of my late teens and early twenties with wife when we were dating and first married.

    When I do decide to sell it I'll be back into a pre-58 ride for sure. Hopefully a pre-48.
     
  14. The bigger shows like the Pleasanton Goodguys West Coast Nationals used to cut off at '48 I think, then they moved it up to '54, and it might be even higher now. But there are also other Goodguys shows that allow anything USA made or USA powered of any year. You'll be surrounded by pro-street Camaros, Novas, and Chevelles though. But there's still some other cars that you can enjoy seeing even if you might get bored by 80% of them.

    The Goodguys Autumn Get-Together in Pleasanton is on November 8th and 9th I think. Your car would fit in fine there. They have a pretty good swap meet with lots of '60s stuff too. Usually I spend more time in that swap meet than I spend in the show.
     
  15. 49ratfink
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    the August P-Town West Coast Nationals is a 57 cut-off date now.

    I thought it would be overrun with "tri-5" chevys but was pleasantly suprised at the number of cool 54 - 57 cars of other makes...
     
  16. deadendcruiser
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    Yeah I think it's just an unspoken rule that 64 seems to be the cut off around here for "traditional" shows. Thats when the muscle car wars started amping up. No one was looking for style, they just wanted to be able to make a fast car you could buy from the dealer. There are some great mid/late 60's customs around.
    Then again I'm a sucker for lowriders:D
     
  17. Rooster
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    Was just gonna mention how lowriders transcend the age breaks...
    I enjoy local open shows the most, where number of cars aren't an issue, and discluding someone isn't a priority. The most variety and ingenuity can be found by looking outside the borders of your chosen genre of cars. I guess I just rather enjoy looking from a 32 highboy to a 77 Mustang Ghia V-8 to a pimped out 90's Eldo-camino and appreciating their differences and similarities all in a brief period.
     
  18. oldsman71
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    yer not alone!!!
     
  19. Shaggy
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    Why doesnt anyone but me build a 60's correct muscle car? Granted my 64 camino is kinda between muscle car and chev 2 nova's, but it's more traditional than most "pre 48 cars"
     
  20. I understand what you're saying, but it ends up like the cat at a dog show argument. If you really want to be part of those kinds of events etc, well I guess the bottom line is you need to re-car yourself.

    Also, there was a generational change in cars in the earlier 60's. As said the start of Falcons, ChevyII's, GTO's and Mustangs. Chassis cars went out, unibody became all but universal. Rounded body shapes, curves and lumpy hoods were gone and so on.
     
  21. breeder
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    short answer?????? MUSTANG!!!!!;)
     
  22. DrJ
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    It's all about keeping "Mustangs" out.
    (And Mavericks too.)

    "Charity Custom Car Show" "No VW's or Minitrucks"
    (wasn't because of the VW's or Minitrucks. It was because of some of the way too rowdy VW and minitruck owners.)
    Since they came out new I've thought the '67 Buick Wildcat was the most doable car for a custom.
    Just needs an interesting front end treatment.

    Interestingly, Back in the actual middle and late '60s there wasn't anyone telling people they couldn't enter "new" customized cars in shows.
    That all happened in the '80's-'90's reinCARnation of what rod run T shirted street rodders with their gray haired wives in Poodle skirts thought they remembered of "cruise nights".

    How many of you youngsters cut your customizing teeth on Minitrucks?
    They are what held on to and saved the art of actual customizing I think.
     
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  23. I like that!
     
  24. TRAMPKING
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    but who makes the rules of whats traditonal or not ? when i go to a custom show ,custom is the point right ?maybe there should be huge car shows and sections for differant types then no ones left out kinda like going to pomona swap meet.
     
  25. Well, it's like everything, the people that put on the show determine the rules. That's their perogative. Of course it's never going to please everybody. BUT: It's been said many times, if you don't like what other people put effort into putting on, knock yourself out and put on a show with what ever format you would like. Simple solution.
     
  26. GlenC
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    When I first got into rodding back in 1963, the cutoff date for hot rods was 1934, anything 'newer' was considered a custom by the magazines, especially the fender-skirted 36 roadsters and coupes.

    I don't rmember anyone was touching 1935 or 1937-8 model cars much at all, but the 39-40 coupes were popular, and then the 49-51 Mercs and shoeboxes, and then of course the 'new' cars being radically customised.

    That's how I saw it, as a pimply teenage spectator from the other side of the planet buying US hot rod magazines with my school lunch money anyway.

    Cheers, Glen.
     
  27. Chuck R
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    Re: What about the 60's

    If you can remember the 60's, then you weren't there.

    answer: pony cars
     
  28. TRAMPKING
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    im just saying times have changened its not the 50's or 60's guys now run 4 drs homemade frames and bodies air bags on model as and ts breaking so called traditional rules im not in a honda vw mini truck mustang big wheels fiber glass billet rod maybe its time to raise the yr to 69 im talking flaked skiny whites supreme/crager/westerns/rockets with bell flower tips angel hair organ pipe speaker covers tube grills ect 60s customs i just want to cruise and show n shine
     
  29. THERE IS NO RIGHT ANSWER!!
    start your own show, board ect and make your own rules. everyone will argue about your rules too
    " there is no hope for a satisfied man"
    cars are like politic's and religion, no one will ever agree on one thing
     
  30. DrJ
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    Veeeery interesting...


    The loudest buffoon tells over and over the way he thinks it is or should be and the flock of sheep follow. (?)


    My latest idle (buffoon) thought on the matter:
    The cut off for "Traditional Rods & Customs" should be PRE-'62 because '61 was the last year 99% of the manufacturers put WWW's on their new cars.

    (Actually, a few Customs in Magazines started showing up with skinny WW's in late '57 and GM put them on their show cars in '53.)
     

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