... and this issue might be an interesting read! http://cgi.ebay.com/National-Dragst...1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
great enjoyable thread guys. BTW: Brandon those 2 cars you posted are cool. i like the 61 especially. also, your sig, "dos lo baws.......since 56....... yeah really"..... can you explain what this means? thanx.
aug. 2002 ...thurs night at the hotel , while at the street rod nationals...i was doing some striping on a couple cars for some friends. we were talking like we needed a old club name to paint on the cars.... all the cars were sportin' balls , so........... dos (2) lo......balls.... added the "since 56" part to make it sound better. at the time it was totally ficticious....but it worked... street rodder tv show shot a whole episode on the group....that was a cool summer...lots of fun and met a bunch of cool people.....one of the cars from the group , got a ton of exposure...it was the "half fast" model a modified....last seen in the arizona area. brandon
Follow-up on LaVerne's Valiant: That car was actually specially built with Plymouth engineers walking it through the production line, adding and subtracting parts and components as it went along. The 8 3/4" rear is one example. Factory installed. No tech inspector ever saw anything but factory welds, etc on that car. Plymouth wanted to promote the "new" Valiant by winning on the track. When the car was first delivered, it was still owned by Plymouth. Bill Stiles was contracted for the motor and LaVerne was the driver. Factory support was there. Later, LaVerne bought the car from Plymouth and continued to race it, but soon it fell out of competition because the factory support went away due to the fact that there were no other Valiants running and the car started running 3 tenths above the record. LaVerne sold the car to Ronnie Evans, who did his usual tricks and re-sorted out the car. Ronnie got it to run about .08 under the record. LaVerne was pi--ed. But that didn't stop him from helping Ronnie when he started running another '62 '09 car.
This image really serves to depict the 'feel' of the staging lanes ... the tension, the drama, and the camaraderie. Excellent! Thanks for sharing it Colesy.
Love the wagon pics colesy. They were the epitome of Jr. Stock in the day. A readily available, unwanted cheap body with good weight distribution and a wide range of available under-rated engines. Speaking of wagons, any pics of Dickie Ogles' "Stagecoach" '56 Chevy (265, dual quad 225 HP) which I believe won class at the Nationals at least a couple of years?
WGuy -- "Follow-up on LaVerne's Valiant: That car was actually specially built with Plymouth engineers walking it through the production line, adding and subtracting parts and components as it went along. The 8 3/4" rear is one example. Factory installed. No tech inspector ever saw anything but factory welds, etc on that car." Junior Stock 'intrique' ... I love it, thanks for the great story Verne!
I live around the Bristol area where Demarchis' garage was at and remember seeing this car . Also actually remember it passing me on the street one day. I don't recall if it had plates on it but do recall it was hauling. Hard to miss this one!! Thanks for posting it. This is 40 pages of the best reading I have ever seen!!
Henry went on to build worldclass streetrods,even named the color of his paint "Nancy Dana red" after his wife, Met him at Penske Racing in N.C. during Chevy nomad convention, Great fabricator !
Great picture and one that I had not seen before. I figured that Bennie and Dave had another car before the 67 Camaro, which they still race. Can't you just hear that W motor blaring through those open headers?
Wow what a great forum! Ive got some pictures in my files that would really fit in here nicely. My buddies and I used to race a gold 62 Chevy Impala 409 in B/S at Vargo, Cecil County, and Atco. We had the track record at Vargo and Cecil County sometime back in 1964. Jim Stafford owned and drove it. For a time we had six-foot long ladder bars like some of the FXrs. Jury is still out on how well it worked, but it looked bad. For a bunch of kids just out of high school, we didnt do badly. In 1965, we put the engine, now fully blueprinted, in a 1962 Belair nine passenger wagon, which came in at a 9.01 pounds per advertised horsepower on a class break of 9.00-9.49 pounds per advertised horsepower- Which put it right at the top of C/stock. We got fairly close to the national record when we werent breaking axles or rears, and we just about had it all worked out when we all got drafted in September of 1965. I bought the engine from Jimmy when he was in the Navy and installed it in my 63 Impala street car for a brief time. I owned the engine from about 1967-2007 and sold it to Ronnie Evans in 2007. Bill Jenkins tuned the engine in 1964 several times, and just this year set it up for a replica of the 1961 old reliable that he and another fellow are building. Interesting how things go full circle sometimes. Jenkins was my first hero and still is. The junior stock era was wonderful and I would go back in a minute. Right now Im building a station wagon for a magazine series Im doing called Project Six Pack 2-a wagonload of memories A lot of you know me from running the Struse Smith and Welsh super stock magazine roadrunner in the magazine series I wrote. I owned the car from new till last year when I sold it due to complications from 19 years of Parkinsons disease. I decided to pay off my house and charges and that was the way I had to do it. However, I have reacquired the six-time national record holding engine from Project six pack and the automatic trans that set the automatic record and that is what will power the wagon. Yes, I know the six pack was never available in the satellite station wagon, but its going to be done in a junior stock paint scheme and well have fun with it. We have a a lot of drag racing out here in Colorado, but no nostalgia racing other than flatheads. And thats not my era. Ill dig up some old pictures and post some stuff as time permits. Keep the good stuff coming I love it!...
Yes, please "post some stuff"! And speaking of '1964,' here's a seldom-seen eBay goodie. From--> http://cgi.ebay.com/1964-NHRA-Drag-...oryZ2878QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
PS RE: 1964 NHRA Rule Book. Just in case you didn't notice -- that (eBay) listing also depicts the '64 *Stock class weight breaks and a portion of the rules! *It 'seems to me' that the 'Junior' Stock moniker had not quite caught on 'yet.'
Great shots Colesy! Always wondered why the front end of Allread's car was so 'tall' in some images. Was the car sans engine then, or did he not know 'better'? Here it is 'in progress' --->
Colesy, I really have no idea how many there were, and no matter how many, I doubt many of them had the factory support LaVerne's did. It was a Chrysler engineer who walked it through the line (maybe Koffell was his name, I'll have to check on that). He actually had the car built for his wife, but she didn't like it, so it went to others who had fun with it. I wasn't aware LaVerne had it in ND. I thought it was a private deal between him and Ronnie. I guess the ad was already sent in when Ronnie heard it was available. That car ran just the opposite than a Chevy; It liked to be HOT, it liked advanced cam timing and it didn't care where the engine timing was set. It had a 6cyl trans in it (I'm not sure but I'd bet that had a lower 1st gear). The engine would fall off a cliff like a brick at 6K, but shift it at 5600 & 5800 and it was killer. When Ronnie sold it, it had 650mi on it, all 1/4mi at a time.
Were there any Chevy II Wagon's run in Jr. Stock ? If so, does anyone have pictures or scanned magazine acticles?
Glen, That's a very good question. To the best of my knowledge I have never seen or recall a Chevy II wagon running Junior Stock. Anyone else recall one? How about it Freddie? Bob Rice
Would love to see pics of any 64-67 Chevy II junior stocker. I would think that the 195hp 283 in a light CII body would have been a popular combo in the lower stock classes.
I remember a pair of Texas based (Super Stock) Chev II cars that did quite well -- a 2-DR post car and a wagon ... the 'Beachy Bros' I believe. I think the wagon was a Junior stocker before it made the switch to SS around '72. By the way (I digress), the 'post' car was sold to a guy named Mike Gosch in Ellicott City, Md, and Mike pulled the driveline and completely disassembled the car ... every nut and bolt! It was in that state when I last saw it around 1975 right after a flood had swept through Mike's garage.
Have plenty of Stock and Super Stock 66-67 Chevy II pictures but not from the Junior Stock era. Bob Rice
Steve, I believe that the Beachy's were from Indiana or Kentucky. There was a John and Ezra Beachy but I'm not sure if they were brothers though. Bob Rice
Bob ! I'd really like to see the 'Stocker's' and Super Stocker photos, expecially if there from the '60's-early '70's era..... Glenn Have plenty of Stock and Super Stock 66-67 Chevy II pictures but not from the Junior Stock era. Bob Rice <!-- / message -->
Well, OK with me ! I just LOVE Stocker's ...... I've had 2 . 1st one was a '70 Buick Skylark 350 car that ran in L/SA 2nd one was a '74 Corvette that ran in I-J-K/SA So YES, bring on the pictures BB !
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