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Ford VEDETTE

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Jeem, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. Jeem
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  2. Von Rigg Fink
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    looks like a bunch of different cars put together to me..
    i see..some chevy lines, buick lines, 53 plymouth cranbrook type grill.
    some merc lines too..not a bad lookin' car acctually
     
  3. Jeem
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    If I had more free time, I'd sketch one as a hot rod and as a custom.
     
  4. GreggAz
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    where were they sold? not many in AZ!
     
  5. Ole don
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    I think Simca made the Vedette. Yes, some had an engine close to a V860 but modernized.
     
  6. Nads
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  7. 38FLATTIE
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    It's different!
     
  8. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    They were actually designed in the U.S. during the war. Ford had thought about a "small" car, but product Management saw no market for a "small "
    Ford in post war america. Plans and development was shipped to Ford of France.


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  9. Jeem
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    I only it knew it was a French marketed Ford. Thanks for the info. One of these little Fords makes my "top 1,000 cars to desecrate" list for sure!
     
  10. unclescooby
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    There was an old g***er version of this car that sold a few years ago. The real deal I believe. I'll see if I can find a picture of it.
     
  11. unclescooby
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    ay yes,...here they are.. I almost bought this one because I had a spare y-block with a Hilborn Injection at the time this was for sale.
     

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  12. palosfv3
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    G***er pics are of a French Ford Comete. They were a predecessor of the Facel Vega




    car01.jpg

    car_pop02.jpg
     
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  13. Midwest Rodder
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    That car is cool.
     
  14. more pix.
     

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  15. 39cent
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    only seen one, waybak guy at work had it. he showed me it had a V8 60 in it. Looked just like one.
     
  16. 50Fraud
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    Another picture of a Comete. They were sold by Ford of France at the same time as Vedettes, I think '51-'54, and they both initially used the V8-60 derived engine. Later Cometes ("Monte Carlo" models) used 85's.

    Cometes have been favorites of mine for many years. Unfortunately they are quite rare, and are chronic rust buckets, so a nice one is big bucks.

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  17. KoppaK
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    Here's a French owned one taken at the 88 NASC Nationals in the UK

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  18. Favorite of mine as well. Big bucks for sure. Even bigger in Euro,s.
     
  19. bonesy
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    I love the graceful top lines.
     
  20. Jeem
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    Very cool. Thanks for the posting those pics!
    The in progress Vedette looks pretty promising....
     
  21. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    I've always loved that the Vedette was the 2/3 version of the '49-'51 Mercury complete with the dropped swage line at the center of the door skin. This design detail came at the hand of E.T.(Bob) Gregorie Ford Motor Company designer from the 30s-'48. Prior to entering automotive design, Gregorie designed yachts and speedboats.

    The Ford Comete, as built by Facel-Metallon/Facel Vega, with the 95 hp flattie & four speed box musta been fun! The famous Valley Customs sectioned shoebox has always had a kinda Ford Comete vibe to me!
    Picture a '49-'51 Shoebox built with a kinda French Comete sorta look...smooth organic French shapes on a Shoe's wheelbase, not that Bob Koto or Ellwood Engle got it wrong to begin with, but alittle different look.
    Now that would be a kustom!

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  22. Dean Martin drove a Facel Vega. In that Nov 08 Arch. Digest.
     
  23. Jeem
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    That's some trick.....Deano's been GONE for a LOOONG time!
     
  24. plym_46
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    For all you French Flathead afficianados. Who built the last of those engines???

    Well Ford of France and Simca were related, and then Simca took over whe Ford left the picture, leaving the license to build the flathead engine. then Simca became part of Chrysler Europe. The flat head still being produced by Simca, therefore, the last flathead V8 were produced by Chrysler, and doubtlessly improved upon by the Chrysler engineers.
     
  25. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    Chrysler didn't buy into Simca until 1958.Were they still building flatheads that late? The Simca Ariane, sucessor to the Vedette, was four banger powered, no?

    S****ey Devils C.C.
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  26. palosfv3
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    Here's Dean with his Facel
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    But Eva looked so much better next to hers
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  27. ehdubya
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    The Comete looks Ghia-ish and yes Chrysler did improve the 60
     

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  28. pimpin paint
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    Hey,

    The picture that Larry posted of "Eva" got me thinkin'......

    Jean Daninos, head of the company that built Facel Vegas & The Vedette ch***ised Comete was rumored to be something of a misogynist. Daninos
    refused to install door locks to the curbside doors of his early vehicles reasoning that any man who would open a door for a woman was less than a man. Upon his death, again rumor, his widow had his drawings and personal effects burned.

    S****ey Devils C.C.
    "Meanwhile, back aboard The Tainted Pork"
     
  29. 50Fraud
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    Jean Daninos took credit for the styling of the Comete, but it's been reported that he had some ***istance from Pininfarina.
     
  30. Larsdk
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    There was a french editor on Hot Rod, in the 80ties. He had, i think, a Vedette custom, that he brought with him to LA. But i cant remember his name.
    Lars
     

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