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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by slammedchieftan, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. slammedchieftan
    Joined: Dec 29, 2007
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    The car is a 55 pontiac wagon, looking to do a triangulated 4 link, with double convulted bag in front of the axle, maybe a watt linkage. I'll give you a call tommorrow. Thanks!!
     
  2. I bought some shockwave copies and they look very beefy and 1/2 the price. I am figuring out height and location as I am typing this.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Air-...62QQcategoryZ33590QQihZ018QQitemZ280297046501

    These are the ones I picked up as they are not as stiff as the ones I linked below and they also give over 5" of travel.
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  3. temper_mental
    Joined: Oct 22, 2006
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    from Texas

    I put my bags out back worked out great for me 31 model A .My car handles turns very well and launches hard .My 2 cents Good luck
     

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  4. alteredimage
    Joined: Oct 5, 2005
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    Total Junk made by Air ride pro or, ch***is tech or AIM or whatever other name they want to go by this month. Do yourself a favor and ditch them for a set of ART ones and not kill someone when one fails going down the highway.
     
  5. alteredimage
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    Sure no problem
    No watts link needed in a triangulated setup the upper bars are your locating device instead of a panhard, watts, jacobs lader etc.
     
  6. grim
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    Yeah there's pros and cons of each, you can probably figure them out when you consider their designs.

    The double convoluted bags were designed for dump truck beds etc. They are meant for a leverage of about 1:2 (half way between the suspension arm's bushings). That's why they work great on A-arm front ends in the stock spring pocket. They can be bent to where the plates are at 45 degrees and offset by 4 inches according to the Firestone engineering manual last I checked (think dump bed). That's a lot more than most people think is dangerous by the way, they're designed to be abused more than people think.

    For a 1:1 ratio (pushing down on the top of the rearend) they designed the sleeve bags - They're designed to be right under (1:1) semi-truck cabs etc. You can probably imagine the pros and cons, each has it's application. I personally like double convoluted front and rear while mounting half way down my 4-link to get 1:2 because I like the huge amount lift for car washing. Hope that helps buddy.
     
  7. Hopsing1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    Not my reasoning (or anyone elses that I know of) :rolleyes: I do it to get up to 12 inches of lift, alot of up and down travel, and a good ride with low air pressure. And the rubber is thicker on the double convoluted and is less prone to damage if something does hit it of it inadvertently comes into contact with a suspension component. Dont over extend a sleeve bag either, do it once and you'll hate them forever, once it comes completely unrolled they are pain to fix or you are almost sure to have damaged them.

    Obviously this is based on my experiences, everyone has their own way of doing things with airbags and components used. Make your own judgment on how you do it, but just do it SAFE. ;)
     
  8. Hopsing1
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    Grim is right on. Good info.
     
  9. Hopsing1
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    Mostly a "dime" :D This truck had a frame that was about 5 minutes from breaking off driving down the road. I backhalved the frame from the just in front of the axle back.
     
  10. Gearstix
    Joined: Dec 21, 2008
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    x2!
    I would never run AIM parts.
     
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  11. Would you post some facts about these? I remember when Redneck converters were said to be **** and they proved that they were one of the best converters made?
    I'd just like some feedback with proof. The bags have a lifetime gaurantee on them. I searched the internet and found no negatives about the shocks just about the kits being not that great but that was also over 3 years ago?
    They really dont have to work hard as they will only be holding about 350 lbs a piece max.
     
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  12. Hopsing1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
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    AIM, Ch***isTech, etc have been around a long time. Their parts in the past have been known to be mediocre at best. I've used some of their parts in the past (air struts for a fwd import and drop spindles for various vehicles) and had no problems with them. I know of people that have had nothing but trouble with their parts. Their customer service is one of those things that was a huge issue in the past...if you did have a problem (wrong part, defective part, whatever) you would have to pull teeth to get them to help you out. I havent dealt with them in years so I dont know if anything has changed, but they have been in business for around 20 years. I would think that if they were that bad, then they would have been out of business years ago. Just my 2 cents.
     
  13. fms427
    Joined: Nov 17, 2006
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    I had a LOT of problems with Air Ride Pro on a gage control panel - always leaked - they would not stand behind, etc. :mad::mad: If air Ride Pro is so good - why do they keep changing their company name (currently something else - I lose track)? Ended up replacing with an AirRide Tech part. As far as I'm concerned, you get what you pay for with AirRide Tech - they make good stuff that works, and are easy to work with - good for a first time builder. But custom build is best if you know what you are doing !
     

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