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Difference between '32 & Model A perches (shock ball actually)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by banjorear, Jan 9, 2009.

  1. banjorear
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    OK, I've still working on ****oning up my trad. AV8. I'm planning on using a '32 axle, '34 wishbone, '32 lever shocks and '32 perches.

    After looking at the difference between the balls for the dogbones for the lever shocks, the '32 ball seems smaller than the Model A.

    My question is are the balls indead different sizes and if so, are there different rubber balls/caps that are used with the '32 and Model A dogbones?

    The replacement rubber balls seem the same to me and want to be sure they aren't .

    Also, one of the '32 spindles has a little wear when the rubber ball wore out and the dog bone was rubbing on metal to metal.

    I was going to build it up with some MIG weld and grind it smooth. Is this something I should do or just leave it alone?
     
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  2. Bruce Lancaster
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    '28-32 Parts book doesn't produce an answer, as most of the bits are configured differently. I think I have an A perch and can compare ball sizes with '32 tonight.
     
  3. banjorear
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    Bruce:

    You are the man. Seriously, when you retire from education you should go to work for Ford as their historian.
     
  4. Goztrider
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    LOL... Bruce is comparing the size of his balls.

    Sorry... just couldn't resist p***ing this one up!
     
  5. Bruce Lancaster
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    Damn. Spent the weekend trying to remember what I needed to look up in the iron library...will checkitout tonight, unless the new set of brain cells dies off too.
    Those rubber covers from V8 balls really help me keep warm in this weather...
     
  6. HotRod_Joe
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    I know Mac's sells the shock link bushings that says they fit 28-35. So, I'd ***ume the balls are the same size if the bushings fit both links.
     
  7. Bruce Lancaster
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    Don't go by that! Model A's dont even HAVE bushings; the balls ride on two metal plungers that cup them, with grease of course. Mac's is either: A. Utterly wrong. B. Talking about the crude replacement V-8 type links made for A's by some third world supplier. C. Finding new ways to express its consistent and highly developed dedication to written and metal ****.
     
  8. HotRod_Joe
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    Yes, I see now. Model A's had the tubular links. The bushings I saw were for the dog-bone type replacements you mentioned.
     
  9. HotRod_Joe
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    But wait, isn't banjorear asking about the replacements? He mentions the dog-bone type of link.
     
  10. pasadenahotrod
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    The balls on the perches are the same size.
    The correct Model A tubular shock links were Ford over-engineered parts with springs, br*** seats, and rubber seals. The much cheaper to make cast steel 2pc dogbones with rubber bushings and the later stamped steel units with integral bushings and ball studs ended up being the best in cost and service.
     
  11. The37Kid
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    This may help, or add to the confusion. There are two styles of Dog Bone links, one allows the pearch ball to be on one side and the shock arm on the other, style "B" allows both pearch and arm to mount on one side. This may help if there are clearance problems.
     
  12. Bruce Lancaster
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    OK...somebody on here has an A perch! I dug all the way down, and found 6 '32-4, zero A. Useta have one...probably filed with hubcaps or something.
    The variant take-apart dogbone types are for the several years of V8 that used balls forged onto the shock arms...later ones had forged balls with threaded shanks and taper that were replaced as integral parts of the dogbones. Don't have it here to check, but I believe the variations are pictured in the parts books.
     

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