I was cleaning out my old fuel tank today in preparation for sealing. It had a fair bit of scale and **** in there. It's not too bad now but I bet I will fill up a filter or 2 in the first couple hundred miles. So that got me thinking about filters. I hadn't really thought much about what I was going to use. I remember the old Holdens I grew up with had the gl*** fuel bowl as part of the pump and I always kind of liked how they looked. Is there a gl*** bowl style filter available as a stand alone unit? If so, where do I get one? Pete
Got mine on E-Gay, for $24. It`s the AC Delco unit that would have come on the Cadillac motor, Their was a few to chose from. aloy top, gl*** bowl hangs below, Thow dont mount it upside down like I did, did`nt quite fill up before, ****ing a load of air into the 94`s and blowing a power valve, when it backfired. **** myself, laugh,,,.
Centre Rd wreckers (Clayton) have them ON Holdens! Lemme know if you get desperate and I'll go pull one off for ya!
I love sediment bowls. Just another one of those visual clues that tells the observer that this is and old style build. They actually work really well. The large particles fall to the bottom. If you have a water in the gas problem it will show up in the gl*** bowl. The heavier water settles in the gl*** bowl. Bad gas and dirt were much more of a problem when these were popular and required. By the 60s the problems eased and paper filters were adequate. I've collect many styles over the years. The coolest one I ever had was made by Stromberg. The whole thing including the bowl was made of bronze. Not the yellow br*** that we see in fittings but a really cool looking redish color that polished up beautifully with the raised Stromberg letters on top. I've never seen another one since and I've been looking. They can be as a addictive as crack but fortunately not as costly.
When I put the crate motor in my '62 Suburban, I dressed it to look like a vintage engine: chrome 327 valve covers, Edelbrock C4B, and a reproduction '61 Chevy fuel filter bowl up by the carb. I love the look, and the function of them. I always put a see-through filter in line right ahead of the carb, particularly on vintage engines, because it's a great diagnostic tool. If you've got a fuel issue, it helps diagnose whether its the pump, the carb, plugged lines, debris, etc. etc. Mine is suspended from the hard line running between the fuel pump and the carb, just like the original. It looks clean and OE. -Brad
I had a 49 plymouth sedan back in texas that had a sediment bowl attached to the carb, then when you followed the line down to the pump it was an older carter model like my 47 230 had with ANOTHER bowl on it! The PO must have worked for the Redundancy Department of Redundancy......it was easier to eyeball the top bowl so the pump was replaced.
Yeah got tons of the old AC's and others NOS and used,,pumps and filters,,I was told they stopped using them as something about the gl*** warming up from teh engine and that warm gas ****ed for performance ?? I dunno
Tommy, you might try and check with the Stutz resto crowd, sounds like something they might use. Won't be cheap though.
I got a box of paper element that I think fit that style? I will dig out the PN and post it up, maybe one of hoarders need some filters!
Pete, If you don't mind something a little more modern; Perkin 400 series diesel engines have a very similar filter. The big differences are the base has a fuel shut off valve and the bowl is translucent plastic instead of gl***. The filter element replacemnts would be easier to get. This engine has one on it: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Perk....c0.m245&_trkparms=72:543|65:12|39:1|240:1318
Actually, the warmer the gas , the better it will atomize, its the intake air that you want to be cool, the cooler air is denser.
My 56 Ford came with an after market sediment bowl filter. It was marketed as a "gas saver". Not that cool looking but I kept it for my "snake oyl get better gas mileage" parts collection. I'd be more inclined to think that the costs of making them played a bigger roll. GM started putting the stone elements right in the side of the carb. No extra castings and parts to manufacture. Moroso used to sell cool cans that were packed with ice to cool the fuel for better performance.
Old Tractors are a source for them too. My 8N has one and they are still available at tractor parts places.
I know people that use the cool cans at the drags, hot setup seems to be a solid piece of dry ice that is carved down to just fit inside the coils. Kinda have to wonder how much of the benifit from that is just the reduction of the fuel boiling (as it p***es into the float bowls) and artificially enriching the mix.
Looks like my filters were smaller than I thought? And inlet filters. Standard Hygrade Fuel inlet Filters 2 Numbers:A5 and below that R30-20 Carter? Rochester?
They are, but there's always some slapped together old ****box with retrocool old parts....Im sure I've seen one there somewhere....I'll have a look, but it won't be til next weekend!
Thanks for all the feedback and info guys. I just need to decide what kind to get now. This actually turned into a reasonable thread. thanks again Pete
I did a post a while back on fitting the filter from a 60's VW bug in the stock Model A sediment bowl with a Holley vacuum secondary diaphragm spring. They're a $1.50 at NAPA (part number WK35) http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=293095&highlight=sediment+bowl+filter
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