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Rubber vs. Metal Fuel-Line

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by username, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. username
    Joined: May 8, 2001
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    I am looking to replace the entire length of fuel line in my Mercury. None of my local parts stores have any metal fuel line for sale (in long lengths), and they are suggesting using rubber. Another suggestion is to use 3/8" brake line and combining/connecting different length to get the overall desired length. I am not too big on having an extra 3 connections or fittings.

    Are either of these suggested recommended or bad ideas?

    Without doing the mail order thing, can anyone suggest a parts store they have found that usually has this in stock?

    Thanks

    username
     
  2. Deuce Roadster
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    My local NAPA store hashard 3/8 line in 72" lengths ... in stock and has gotten me 84" wwith a 2 or 3 day wait ... while it came in.

    :)
     
  3. 3/8" steel brake line is fuel line...i use them in 5-6 foot lengths and join them with a coupler...make sure you check for leaks before firing the motor

    use as little rubber hose as needed for flex....like from the frame to the fuel pump
     
  4. cadillac dave
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    i have used the aluminum fuel line by moroso. comes in a roll. then you only have one piece.
     
  5. Yeah, I use the 3/8" steel as fuel line. Usually you just need two pieces with one coupling in the middle.
     
  6. careyohio
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    Be careful of rubber fuel lines....some of the stuff some stores are selling has a very short life span....the gasoline will cause it to get hard , crack and leak....had an 8" piece that was marked " FOR GASOLINE " and it only lasted 2 years...was not located in a hot location either....what ever rubber line you use...check it every once in a while for cracks.
     
  7. llonning
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    You can but the brake line in (I think) 25' rolls. Part of the problem with fuel hose is the gas companies change the formula on occasion. I work with chain saws, etc,. We have a huge problem with the gas formulas eating fuel line.
     
  8. el Scotto
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    from Tracy, CA

    My hardware store has hardline in rolls in steel and aluminum.
     
  9. tooslow54
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    Yup. That's exactly what I did.
     
  10. Hoptup Jalop
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    what store are you using??? and where??

    Scott
     
  11. pitman
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    This is an excellent way to go. 100k miles on the first coupe w/no problems. Rusty usually hits it spot on! :D Speedway sells the rubberized clips that will hold it in place cheap too.
     
  12. Deuce Roadster
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    [​IMG]

    I always use a fuel filter ... like shown above ... as the coupling. Most any old vehicle that is old enough to be HAMB friendly ... can benefit from a fuel filter :D
     
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  13. ct
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    Hard line then rubber from the fuel pump to the carb. Rubber coated clips hold it along the frame. Easy job.
     
  14. 325w
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    Hard line to near the fuel pump then add fuel injection hose to the pump for vibaration. Steel line from pump to carb. FI hose cost a little more but will hold up to the formula changes better than regular rubber gas line. IMHO
     
  15. B.A.KING
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    part number,or name brand/cost of the fuel fillter please. great idea.how often would you change filter? the little rubber clamps folks are talking about are adell clamps? most older parts stores have them i think? crs you know:confused:
     
  16. I just bought a 25' roll of 3/8" tubing for $19.95 from the local parts store. It is a little easier to work with than the straight sticks.
     
  17. ditto, I need one of those also. I have the base but no can.
     
  18. yoyodyne
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    For good hose go to a hydraulic or truck shop and get hose they use on Push-lock fittings. It has braid inside and 2 different kinds of rubber, chemical resistant on the inside, weather resistant on the outside. Synflex is one brand name, there are others. Good for 200+ PSI, but will work with standard hose clamps at low pressure. I've had it on my Rambler for fuel and trans cooler lines since '78 and it's just starting to show age.

    BTW, some states require hard lines and allow limited use of rubber hose. NHRA allows a total of 12" of rubber line.
     
  19. Deuce Roadster
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    Mine is a AC Delco
    Part number 62 GF - C

    Cost is around 25 dollars ... garage price.
    EDIT ... I just recieved a PM saying that they were no
    longer available ... :(

    But I cannot verify that ;)

    I bought a case of them at a swap meet a few years back.
    Sold a few at the swap meet and kept a few for my own use.
    I have not tried to buy any ... because I had a few

    .
     
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  20. Deuce Roadster
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    The 87 or so Corvette uses the same filter and has a can that interchanges. Maybe one of the " Corvette recyclers ... used parts guys " would have one. The base is a little different but I have used them also ... on friends cars that I was helping with. It is a simple matter to fabricate a small yet neat mounting bracket.

    The filter that goes inside the cannister is GF 157 .

    [​IMG]

    I found this one on eBay ... and NO ... the auction is not mine :)

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1987...1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247
     
  21. mj40's
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    Ditto! on the chemical resistant on the inside, weather resistant on the outside. Ethanol does bad things to over the counter rubber fuel lines. I hate those engine fires. Personally I use metal line all the way if I can and flex line to the engine to the carb.
     
  22. i'm glad this topic came up..... i work at a plumbing supply house and we have 1/4, 5/16, and 3/8 alum and copper rolls here would there be a problem running copper or alum as a fuel line that's designed for plumbing/hvac (pilot line) use?
     
  23. Thumper
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    I know Autozone has rolls of hardline..I've seen it. Now IF the *****s on the counter know it....well.....thats another matter.
     
  24. When you DO use the rubber line (from frame hard line to pump, for instance), it is best to have the hard lines 90º to each other, never pointing at each other. This allows for proper flex. It IS tempting to point the hard line at the pump inlet, but don't do it.

    Also, using a double flare tool, do only the first step, and you'll have a perfect roll to hold the rubber line secure.
    Cosmo
     
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  25. Deuce Roadster
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    [​IMG]

    If you look closely ...
    You can see the GF 157 replacement filter number that goes in the cannister.

    This Corvette filter has a stainless cannister :)

    And the original braket would be easily adapted
     
  26. mj40's
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    Here is one from Jegs at $29.99 # 555-15172 and the replacement filters for $9.99 # 555-151173
     

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  27. yoyodyne
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    Should be fine. I've installed aluminum on race cars, and heavy trucks use copper fuel lines.
     

  28. thanks i dident think i was doing any har,..... anythings better than rubber imo
     
  29. metalmike13
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    from Glass City

    You should be able to get a 25' roll from your local NAPA or from summit racing. Ditto on the fuel filter. I only use rubber fuel line connecting from the tank to the metal line, and from the metal line to the fuel pump. Just my 2 cents.
     

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