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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Don Moyer, Jan 27, 2009.

  1. Don Moyer
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  2. FiddyFour
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    ok, color me impressed.

    i had seen those printers before, but had no idea they had come to the point of being able to print multiple parts already ***embled, and i also had no idea they had gotten so large.

    impressive
     
  3. bobj49f2
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    Very, very cool! Next time I have an extra $50K I'll have to pick one up.

    Thanks for the post.
     
  4. thunderbirdesq
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  5. We got all of those toys at work in the fab shop...even after watching dozens of parts being created seemingly out of thin air...it's still fascinating to watch.:cool:
     
  6. ken1939
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    Awesome stuff, amazed how it made moving parts all at once. Can we get a real deuce roadster in there?
     
  7. kustomizingkid
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  8. phukinartie
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  9. Well that is so advanced I'm having a hard time believing what I just saw. That is straight out of some future movie. Amazing that it can produce ***emblies with moving parts.
     
  10. Gearhead Graphics
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    My birthday wish list just grew a bit.
    Effin amazing!
     
  11. sawzall
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    funny,

    I just presented a proposal to put one of the (dimension 3d printers) in my school shop.


    a more "basic machine" is the

    "rep rap"


    http://reprap.org/bin/view/Main/ItemsMade


    the next engine scanner is cool as heck. but z corp makes one you can hold in your hand.. and is able to scan larger parts.. (and is already used by the automotive aftermarket)
    http://www.zcorp.com/Products/3D-Scanners/ZScannerandtrade-700/spage.aspx

    Industry uses a solid modeling software (or similar) that generates solid models.. I teach students to use autodesk inventor.. recently I made a solid model of a simple bracket for the recycled40fordwoodie.

    http://recycled40fordwoodie.blogspot.com/2008/12/inventor.html

    its an exciting time to be teaching about this technology..


    <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td>[​IMG]</td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From The Recycled 40 Ford Woodie Project</td></tr></table>
     
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  13. Gerg
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    that is amazing
     
  14. wsdad
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    That's Willie-Wonka-Star-Trek cool! Now, instead of the printer squirting molten plastic, they should rig up a wire welder to squirt molten metal!
     
  15. tjm73
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    Jetson's indeed....wow....very cool...almost can't believe it....damn
     
  16. Yea that would be the next step,
    Pretty soon your signature line will work too,
    I'm still scratching my head on how this makes moving parts
     
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  17. Colombo
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    Great technologie. You can take the same file from that scanner and build parts made of steel, aluminum, and even stainless. That does not even include parts that can be built in the nylon material and even carbon fiber. This tech has been around for a few years. I myself have been in it since 1996 and have seen this industry grow.

    Just imagine.... You design an intake manifold, we build it in gl*** filled nylon in 21 hours with no personel. You then run that manifold and find out you need to make changes. You change the CAD file and we build another part and you run that till you get the best performance. All that within 1 weeks time. That is where the technologie is going. It will only get bigger and faster. This technologie was said to be the killer of the modern Model maker.
     
  18. Squablow
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    That is so kick-***. I could think of a LOT of stuff to make in one of those machines. I wonder if they can do clear plastic? Think, every horn ****on center, every hubcap insert, every hood ornament available new, you'd only need one core to make them. And that's just the simple stuff.

    I wonder how much that setup would cost to buy.
     
  19. Shifty Shifterton
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    That stuff's actually been around with that capability for a while.

    Know the old line about giving away razor handles and selling the blades? That biz works the same way. Wait til you see how much the proprietary plastic goo costs. Yeowza!
     
  20. jleavesl
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    Since it is measuring millions of points to create the model, it can detect where there are gaps. Since it is additive process (deposits the plastic) as opposed to a subtractive one, it can put in a little spacer in the gaps (they said it dissolves in a bath) and create each seperate component, but with the device fully ***embled.

    John
     
  21. jleavesl
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    They are saying 3k for the scanner and the small 3D Printer is about 14k (according to the website).

    John
     
  22. Don Moyer
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    So, how much would it cost to make a run of intake manifolds?
     
  23. Shifty Shifterton
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    They've already gone the next step and instead of sintering plastic goo are sintering metallic powders and printing metal parts. Crude and weak, but they are doing it.

    Extremely similar technology is used daily in the medical fields to create investment casting patterns for replacement human parts.
     
  24. Squablow
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    That's not bad at all! I totally want one of these, I hope they catch on in a big way. Can you imagine? Let's say I need a tail light lens. I post it up on the HAMB and someone in Texas has the same lenses. They scan them out, email me the scan data, and I plug that into my printing machine. I have my parts on my car maybe a half hour later.

    Or maybe I hit something with my late model. I need the bracket that the headlight bolts onto, and a grille. I jump on the web, find the scan program for the part, and make one in my garage. Or I glue my old one back together and scan it myself.

    I knew stuff like this was around, but I didn't think it was so affordable. My mind is thoroughly blown after watching that. I'd never run out of disposable forks!
     
  25. Colombo
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    Yeah Shifty, That stuff is not cheep at all. My company hates when I order this stuff. But, if you are looking for something quick, well you have to pay the price. I think that was the reason UPS evolved. Nothing wrong with the current mail service, but If I can get your mail to you faster for a little more..... Sure, we all want things faster. I remember building a dash for a new car. It only took me 3 days to build it and 3 days to finish that thing out to show quality. You could never tell the difference when placed side by side. And if you want clear parts, it is also available.
     
  26. Colombo
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    Don,
    You would be looking around 2 to 3 thousand for one intake. You would not even have to touch it. It would be finished and ready for you to install. The current machine available can build a part that is 23 X 23 X 23 inches. These machines can also build parts that can't even be manufactured due to undercuts and other crazy designs.
     
  27. Shifty Shifterton
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    I would be paranoid about actually using any parts made of the plastic stuff. Have handled a bunch of old patterns of all varieties and they seem to lose a ton of strength every year. Almost like they dry up and overcure with time.
     
  28. How the heck can it spit out a full working model? Gears,pistons and all that.Even in different colors.
     
  29. My buddy's got one, and I can't think for the life of me what I'd need it for. I wish I could think of something to have him make for me. Any ideas?
     
  30. I think the plastic is just to have something (a model) to copy from in material of your choice after test fitting the model to your application
     

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