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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by chambies, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. chambies
    Joined: Feb 25, 2007
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    from ca

    Has anyone here sold a cl***ic car overseas ie: Sweden, Great Brittan, Denmark, Australia...
    Just wondering if there is as big a market as some say there is.
    Also are the prices inflated and what was shipping costs. Any info on the subject is appreciated. Thanks.
     
  2. Pez
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
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    Cal shipping, or speak to Steve at Limeworks.....

    are the prices inflated? We can read over here as well :)
     
  3. italianhotrodder
    Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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    from sweden

    hi
    yes in europe the market of a hot rod and cl***ic car it's new, every month arrives thousands of cars from united states in all ports of the europe also the hot rodding it's new ,a lot of guys are interested in this moment to buy american cars,the problems are the same in all the europe, the import companies are not a lot, and are expensive this situation slows down the market that have a big potential of a milions of dollars ,because after the car, we need also of a parts to restore the car, that in this moment are hard to find.
    no comment for the price inflated,for the shipping cost i use this company in los angeles http://www.usacintl.com/ for the import, if you need of others info,or if you need of a partner here in europe let me no, this is my contact mailto:hdluca@alice.it
    best regards
    Luca
     
  4. t-town-track-t
    Joined: Jan 11, 2006
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    I sold a car to a guy in Australia one time. Well, he was here, and bought the car to take back home with him. I always thought that was kinda cool.
     
  5. SteadyT
    Joined: Sep 11, 2007
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    No, but I had a guy in Australia contact me because of where I lived. He had purchased a car from someone local to me and said he couldn't contact the guy he purchased the car from (who lived about a half hour away form me).

    Apparently he bought the car and had the WA ***le in hand when it was shipped to him. I guess he went to get the car registered and they wouldn't ***le it because it didn't have a certified bill of sale from this state in this country.

    He asked me if I would go to the guys house and talk to him. I was willing to help in any way I could but the guy that sold it didn't live there anymore blah blah blah.

    I felt bad for the guy down in Oz. If someone is buying a car from the states, it might be best to contact the DMV on what exact info that they need before they receive it so all ducks are in a row way ahead of time.

    My .02
     
  6. BigBlockMopar
    Joined: Feb 4, 2006
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    Luca, with all due respect, but I think you've been living under a rock or something 'cause there's nothing new about importing US cars to this side of the ocean.
    The Swedes for instance have doing this for ages already, hence their awesome car-scene over there. England has a good cl***ic scene aswell.
    US-cars aren't really scarce here in the Netherlands either. US car-imports really took off here in the 80's & 90's when roadtax became a thing of the past on cars older then 25 years. We have numerous meetings in and around our country in the summer where you can find 100-2000 US-cars at one place very easily.

    I say you're wrong again, the market overhere is pretty much overwelmed with all kinds of companies trying to make money with shipping over US cars & parts. From the top of my head I can name at least 10-15 companies in my local area that import car parts on a very regular, like weekly basis.

    I think you should better say importing cl***ic US-cars into Italy is failry 'new' ;)

    I own 6 US-cars (Mopars) at the moment, with another one on the way.
    The last 2 cars I imported cost me about 2000 Euro's for the transport, per car. (this includes cartransport to a US-harbour)

    As for price-inflation,
    There are some companies overhere which are more expensive then others.
    Here in The Netherlands there's usually a conversion factor to easily estimate how much a part would cost when it gets here. When buying parts through most companies overhere, the norm these days is 'Price in Dollars x 1.3 = Price in euros'. So a $100 part will cost the buyer overhere 130 Euro's, depending a little on the currency exchange rates and shipping ofcourse.
    When I buy parts myself, depending on size and shipping, I can usually get them here for a 1:1,0 or 1,1 factor. International shippingcosts has been raised very much the last year, so having boxed parts shipped over individually has become a lot less interesting these days.
     
  7. J.B.
    Joined: Jan 7, 2005
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    from Sweden

    Speaking from a Swedish point of view. I have never sold, but bought a
    couple of cars. Shipped out from Miami, L.A., Houston and New York. I don't
    deal with cars. I have bought them for myself. It's so extremely easy to have
    a car shipped to Sweden and no worries for the seller. You take the car to
    the shipping drop off, which is a place to store the car safely and also have
    the paperwork done.

    Price for the shipping is about $1600 plus dock and other charges ($400).
    Then you always have the country's tax depending on the value of the car.

    If you don't live close to where it's being shipped out, you have to add
    domestic transports. But that is all the buyer's problem. Like the rest of the
    transport costs.

    Inflated prices? The ones buying cars in the US have a good check for what
    the cars are worth, so a while ago when the dollar was low, people bought
    like crazy. Now the dollar is much higher and the buyers sometimes can buy a
    similar car for the same price back home.
     
  8. The market is big because the american dollar is so bad right now. Some places can buy a car for what converts to less than you sold it for! We sold our '31 Chevy truck to the Netherlands. Transaction went smooth, cash was good and a trucking company came and picked it up where it then went to a storage container to go overseas. You should be cautious though, I have heard of some transactions not being so honest.
    -Dean
     
  9. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Haven't sold any whole cars yet but I have sold untold amounts of parts. There is apparently a pretty thriving following of old American cars in Western Europe and Australia. Just today I sent a package to a guy in Brazil, some 51-52 Chevy stuff.

    They have the same internet we have, prices are the same, they just have to pay the cost of shipping. I was selling TONS of stuff to foreign buyers this summer, apparently the exchange rate was really good, now that's cooling off and I'm getting mostly US buyers again. I'm ***uming the rates changed.

    Cool to know this stuff is popular not just here but all over the world.
     
  10. Tim G
    Joined: Jan 3, 2009
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    Your joking right?!!

    8 months ago we were getting 2.09 dollars to the pound at the highest point... it's been sliding since and 3 days ago was down at 1.36 which is the lowest it's been for 25 years! the world is in recession and they reckon the UK is one of the worst hit :(
     
  11. italianhotrodder
    Joined: Dec 15, 2007
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    from sweden

    Dear friend i don't live under a rock i know very well the european scene of a american cars but in a post it's impossible to explain all the situation in any parts of europe, in italy all the country there are less of 2000 cars, i know that the scene in the north of europe in different ,but try to register a american cars after import from united states in italy!!!and let me know if it's simple!!!!
    otherwise try to buy a parts in united states the tax are heavy here in italy and also in spain,grece,etc as for the import, here in italy there are 3 companies and ask for the import about 3500-4000euros plus tax+ plus registration in germany because in italy it's almost impossible,other 3500 euros what do you think about?
     
  12. ROADSTERJEFF
    Joined: Jan 28, 2008
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    Sold a car to Denmark last your no problems and he make all shipping details. Money was a wire transfer.
    Jeff
     
  13. Tim G
    Joined: Jan 3, 2009
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    Yeah it doesn't have to be a headache...

    I've bought over 30 cars(mostly old VW campers) from the US in the last 5 years, i wire or paypal the money across and have my shipper(rinkens.com) arrange pick up from the sellers doors step... all the seller had to do was give an honest description and hand the ***le and vehicle over to the trucker guy... it doesn't have to be complicated and i believe is often easier than selling locally for you guys(no tyre kicker visits).

    Like i said the dollar rate is now really bad for us and my last 2 cars are arriving this week but pretty much every American seller i have dealt with has been a pleasure to do business with :)
     
  14. Pez
    Joined: Jul 16, 2008
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    Tim, hit the nail on the head mate.... I managed to get most of my major parts when the exchange rate was good, still a lot of smaller parts needed down the line, just have to wait until the £ picks up or order in bulk to make the shipping worth while......

    A $1000 worth of parts will cost us at least $1500 by the time shipping, taxes etc are added..

    I import stuff for work (non car related) the weak £ cost me a fortune in the last 1/4 of 08...

    Its also getting harder to register Rods and/or modified vehicles throughout Europe, some countries more than others, though for stock cl***ics its still fairly easy, so I would expect the market to lean in that direction in the coming years.....
     
  15. Shipping a US$15000 car to New Zealand is gonna cost a kiwi at least NZ$37000 with our lousy exchange rate, including freight, port costs, tax etc. Not currently a very viable way to buy a car.
     
  16. Pez
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    About the same as shipping a car on its own to here at moment b***man, ****s eh!!
     
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  17. Tor
    Joined: Jul 26, 2006
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    from Norway

    Some years ago i bought a 1932 Ford 3W Coupe in California. I shipped it home from Los Angeles to Norway with a company called www.calship.com they have good service, i can recomend them!
     
  18. RPW
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    The car hobby here is not a new thing at all in Sweden and its very big here, and there are several shipping companies that has been around for long, shipping US-cars to Sweden.
    Though now the dollar is EXPENSIVE! 9,3 SEK for one USD. A year ago it was 5,9 SEK for one USD... For a part that cost 100 USD , a year ago we paid 590 SEK, now we have to pay 930 SEK. Add the cost of shipping, the "custom fee's" (6% for old car parts) and on top of everything 25% "Swedish sales tax", very likely the total cost is now close to the double compared to a year ago...
    Add to that that also the Euro is expensive to us, a Euro used to be 9,25 SEK, now its 11,54. Everything that is imported (and that is a lot) is getting expensive...
     
  19. hotrod-Linkin
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    i've sent cars to austrailia,new zealand,sweden,great britain,united arab imirates,japan,i've never had a problem.i let the customer make arrangements through the broker.
     
  20. drfreeze
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    I sold and sent my 1969 porsche 911 to italy . Shipping was $1600 included the flatbed from my house to the port .
    www.rinkens.com
     
  21. Mike Miller
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    I sold a car at the Portland swap meet to a fellow from New Zeland, he drove it to Seattle and loaded it on a container. It's better if they buy it here and ship it themselves.
    Hey Italian hotrodder, I would love to see your take on American hot rods.
     
  22. krooser
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    I've sold vintage TR3's to Italy and GB... no problems at all. the buyer always arranged the shipping.
     
  23. 29nash
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  24. patrick66
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    I've shipped two from Germany and two to Germany, all done in the early '90s. Even then, it was relatively expensive, with a drive-on/drive-off (dodo) shipping on a '65 Bonneville costing right at $1200 USD, and that included overland transport in the US to the port (Houston) and shipping to Bremerhaven, GE. The buyer picked it up at the port in Germany.

    From Germany to Houston, I shipped a '67 Belvedere wagon the opposite way, same ports, plus overland transport in Germany to Bremerhaven, and that was about $900 USD at that time.

    Containerized shipping is, of course, more expensive.
     
  25. 38Chevy454
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    I sold a 60 El Camino to New Zealand and 59 El Camino that wenrt to Sweden. Both had the buyer here in person with cash and they drove the car off to the shipper. No troouble for me at all. The biggest issue for international buyers is that the car must have a ***le (that matches the VIN, duh..) and a Bill of Sale. I would not worry about the concerns.
     
  26. striper
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    Couple of the UK fellas said it right. The Aussie dollar was up around 0.95 for most of my parts purchases for my A model. Today it's 0.63. It died almost overnight.

    To the original question. There is a big market in Australia. A few guys are importing and selling cars and yes the prices are inflated. But if you have the time and inclination to do it yourself the price is the price and you pay the shipping ($2500 - $3000 AU).

    You fellas might have started this recession but as always you can rely on the Aussies to be right there with you :)
     
  27. 55olds88
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    Same here Striper, we have hit 0.49 to the dollar making life very difficult, specially when I just moved jobs from an export job (good when the dollar takes a dump) to importing cars for folks (bad when the dollar takes a dump). so if any of you are thinking of sending a car from the US to NZ or aussie gimme a call :) or fro that matter NZ to anywhere,by the looks I have 3 to send out next week.
     
  28. roughneck424
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    I've shipped 35 cars to Sweden. Had a partner on that side picking them up and selling on that side.
     
  29. impala1968
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
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    I have bought 2 or 3 cars from Hamb and maybe 30 from other pages, last year we shipped about 140 cars&trucks to Finland, 1/3 was late model trucks, 1/3 60-70 cars and rest were old ones. 2008 was grazy year when dollar was cheap and people had money. Nowadays things have changed a little and this year won't be as good as previous. Don't know about other countries but in Finland is lot of old iron for sale at the moment.
     
  30. Nekronomicon
    Joined: May 23, 2005
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    I'd love to buy a car from the states, but by the time they get your message/email the car is either gone or their just not interested in shipping cause its so much of a h***le.

    Currently looking for an a-model coupe or a cheap fifties car!!!
     

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