EFI on 351C Brilliant idea or hair brained scheme?

Yes some stuff does get through, but check what the boss said...

The HAMB is dedicated to spreading the gospel of traditional hot rods and kustoms to hoodlums world wide. That’s right – TRADITIONAL. And we aren’t talking Beach Boys and poodle skirts here fellas. If you are into a-side 50’s pop, lawn chairs, ruler contests, and all things that make hot rodding warm and cozy then you might want to find another message board. If you aren’t sure what we mean by “traditional”, then you might think twice as well. If you’ve come here to set a rep, talk some shit, and make some fun then you had better turn around right now. We aren't patient.

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I think that about sums it up... yeah there are times that we go off on a tangent. But your attitude... well if you've got a '58 Chrysler EFI setup... run it...

I'd expect better from a Hop Up 100MPH member.... hell I would of expected and intro.

 

run it... looks a hell of a lot better than the Mustang 5.0 stuff anyway...

 

AMC also had an EFI in 57. And using newer junk yard parts is traditional. And I also am a 100mph member. So there.

 

these dang youngwhippersnappers!

well hey, that was only 50 years ago on a Hemi! I was cruzin in my 31 A with sbc by then. how far back you wanna go??

 

O/k so it has to look traditional. You can fit any wild impractical carb induction system you want onto your motor, and just use the carb throttles to control the air into your EFI motor. The fuel bowls, jets and everything else run dry, they are there for show only. The port fuel injectors could be hidden or at least disguised somehow. The EFI computer box can also be hidden. A small hose detecting manifold induction is all the EFI computer needs to sense engine load. EFI will have vastly better drivability and fuel economy than a bunch of performance carbs anyway. If you want to run a pair of big Dominators on a tunnel ram, or triple 97's go for it. You can tune the EFI for excellent economy and drivability, but it will still look traditional "hot rod" at least to the casual observer. EFI on a 351C sounds like a great idea. Once you have used EFI and learned how easy it is to tune it, you will never go back to carbs.

 

Now why would you want to do that .....there are other assholes on this thread that don't want to .....

 

How come everyone bashes this dude for wanting to use EFI, Wasn't tradition to use whats new and available to make the most reliable power? putting a 350 in you 32 3 window wasn't exactly what they were doing in the 40s, most of you have nothing but sbc crap... Wish I could help with the conversion.. Just never been into Fuel Injection much.

 

I agree, you can still build a good rod, and it does not have to have mechanical brakes, six volt electrical system, or skinny four inch wide tires on the back, just because it was done that way originally.

 

I agree, but the majority doesn't.

 

This is a long-time schizm at the HAMB. It's great to pay homage to the OG and use the "real" stuff, but not necessarily realistic. Some of you zealots sound more like restorers than hot rodders.

 

first, i'm not a fucking hoodlum and i doubt any one here seriously considers themself one either. i don't have greasy slicked back hair, tattoos, or a chain wallet. sorry.

second, the hamb definition of "traditional" rods and kustoms doesn't mean two shits in the real world scheme of things. going efi to make your rod run better and harder IS hot rodding.

third, you're clueless if you seriously think me being a 100 mph club member has some kind of bearing over what i think is traditional or not. i happen to hold the fastest flat four record in the books. i also happened to have set this record with a very non-traditional (by hamb standards)turbocharged model b in a very non-traditional (again, by hamb standards) lakester. while everyone else is going 120 mph with their traditional setups we're running 155 mph with ours. i'm a racer. i'm trying to go fast and i really don't care if my car or motor isn't traditional in your eyes. i know more and have done more with less than a lot of these "its not traditional" sheep.

hate to disappoint a senior member and all but there is more to the world of hot rodding than just the traditional stuff. open your eyes and you might see it.

not trying to be a dick just laying it out how it is. harsh i know.

 

maybe you better discuss the what was posted with the owner of the site. he's the one that wrote it, and you should of read it when you signed up. You should of read the rules he has set forth, they're right here Read This First!. Though right now all I can think is if you really think there is more to the world of hot rodding than just the traditional stuff and the hamb definition of "traditional" rods and kustoms doesn't mean two shits in the real world scheme of things why the fuck are you even here? That's what this place is all about and has been for the last 10 years. As for the 100mph Hop Up thing, well I figured it might mean that you had some respect for tradition, guess not... I'd say if what you think and are interested in doesn't fit here then maybe you could try one of the many other boards.

 

nope, won't be leaving. i'm good where i'm at. i'll just have to go on dealing with clueless uber-traditionalists like you that still don't understand that something like running efi is traditional hot rodding.

thanks for repeating what i've already read numerous times. there are always a few of you trying to shove it down everybody's throat. i didn't see the rule about no efi threads though.

maybe you can go find another thread to start annoying other people in. you're really good at it.

i have zero respect for closeminded sheep that have their head stuck in the sand. i'll go on building my hot rod and racing at bonneville and you can go on pretending that you have some kind of right to judge what is or isn't traditional enough to be hamb worthy.

 

Why dont you find a set of 4V heads and pick you up an old Hilborn Injection set up and make it EFI. People do it all the time and it looks as traditional as you can get for a motor that was produced in the late 60's. I guess my Cleveland headed Windsor motor Im putting in my 32 will not be as traditional as I thought now that I am thinking about it..........

 

The reason I don't post here much is exactly because of this attitude here. A poster comes up with an unusual idea, and asks the Forum what do people think? The responses rapidly split in to two factions. The first faction says, "that looks rally cool man". The second starts to worry about sound engineering, practicality, safety, legality, things like that. In the end, the original poster gets really angry, and says things like, "I don't care how it handles, or how well it goes" I want to build it my way for looks, and because nobody else does it like that. Fair enough dude. But a dangerous, or poor performing car, is just not my cup of tea.

 

you should punch yourself in the face before zman reads your post and does it for you. late 60's is a total no go here buddy. efi? are you crazy? that's soooooooooo not allowed on the hamb. you're going to burn in hamb hell for eternity for even thinking about efi.

i'm the fastest guy in the hop up 100 mph club and i'm not even traditional enough for the uber traditional club. geez.

 

So you are both ignorant and stubborn. You obviously know what this place is about yet you just choose to ignore it. I'm no uber-traditionalist as you put it but I think I know there is a time and a place for certain things. But I guess you have problems with reading comprehension as well or you would of noticed that.

LOL, you are a funny funny man Mr. Beef Stew. You want to be a rebel really bad. You want to be HAMB worthy. Well I would say your Bonneville car just might be. But your total lack of respect for what this place is about even though you've obviously have read it just show how close minded you are... I hope I annoy the fuck out of you. You deserve it...

 

Showing what an ass you are... who would of figured...

 

Gee... This thread was a lot more fun a few hours ago.

 

OK so far we have the fastest guy (Miler Mikes kid) in the 100mph club and the first guy to get a 100mph club shirt, me, in favor of EFI as long as that is what the owner wants and it's a do it yourself kind of deal. So what do you learn about 100mph club members from this?

 

yes it was

I wasn't against it, I said keep the hood closed if you use that ugly Mustang shit.

 

So why not fit both your traditional hot rod carb induction for show, and hidden EFI for go? The best of both worlds.

 

it is obvious by this thread and the people here defending the discussion of a late model EFI installation that the HAMB is losing its focus.

sad day indeed.

 

this forum is whatever the people who post make of it. i'm not ignoring anything. i love and appreicate "traditional" hot rods as much as the next guy. i'm just not stuck in some time period prior to 1962 and neither are my cars or my interests in cars.

oh yeah man i'm a real rebel all right. embracing new technology that makes my car run better and faster is really against the grain. and yes, i soooo desire to be worthy in your eyes. if i'm not hamb worthy than what am i? not good enough for zman apparently.

dude this is nothing more than a fucking web forum. what exactly am i bestowing respect upon? you obviously can't figure out that almost everyone here that has posted in the thread supports the fact that adding efi to this guys engine is in fact traditional hot rodding. make it run, make it fast, make it look good and it's hot rodding.

you're the only guy on here copy and pasting the mind numbing crap we've heard time and time again from the same handful of guys on here while everyone else is doing just fine and dandy talking about whatever they want.

 

But that is the price you pay for having a public Forum, people may have different ideas to your own. As long as the discussion stays polite, what is wrong with a discussion on EFI ?

 

it's okay rich. you and i are too cool for this square and he'll never be able to figure that out.

 

Do you guys understand why we come here? What the HAMB is about?

It's for the old stuff. The HAMB is for the older stuff.

There are lots of other message boards where it's pure hot rod whatever, this one is for the way things were traditionally done in the past. Hence, "traditional rods and customs".

You guys just don't seem to understand.

It's like going into a Burger place and asking for Mexican food.

 

Yeah you know nothing about respect. Respect for the man that owns the place and pays the bills. Rock on... I guess you also have a reading comprehension problem. I was never against it.

All I said is

This isn't just a web forum, it's a web forum about Traditional Hot Rods and Customs. You obviously don't get that. You never will from the sounds of it.
So fuck it.. party on dude...

 

Old stuff? But you guys are running blowers, automatic gearboxes, and disc brakes. That ain't old stuff. If it had to all be all old stuff, we would be talking veteran and vintage car restoration here.

 

at least two guys still get it...