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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by V4F, Mar 1, 2009.

  1. I am in trouble, I have many things to do but all I have time for today is your new website. Quite a trip. Neat cars and the descriptions, images, and stories of the builds are very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to bring these views of U K hot rodding to us. Looks like the "50"'s!!
     
  2. Artiki
    Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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    Thanks Bill. It's been hard work, for sure. It has taken me months to get to this stage and it still isn't anywhere near finished.

    Thanks everyone for your comments about the site.
     
  3. saltflatmatt
    Joined: Aug 12, 2001
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    How does that log intake perform? Have you had any problems? Would you change anything?
     
  4. Some of you know and some don't.

    I sold my roadster last week. It was very quick and painless. The car may be gone but the engine is still here. Yay!

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    Now its out. It will be rebuilt again. Got some new ideas for more power plus the new parts that I've had sitting for a while now.

    Anybody with a car looking for an engine to kick some V8 butt at the drags??

    The full story of my engine is now on www.flatheadmeltdown.com, thanks to Darren.
     
  5. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    steve, whats the story behind your side cover??? Me likey!!!
    my motor builder had them cast by his son . you get one with a motor ! want me to see if i can get you one ? it has his name on it "VERMEIL" .. steve
     
  6. Thats a fast looking shopping cart :D


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  7. Elrod
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    That IS a fast looking shopping cart!!!

    I have a Thomas side cover question. I'm trying to locate a Thomas side cover like yours above that has the oil return round opening for a Model A engine. Does one exist?

    I guess I could go with the modern oil filter, but I would rather not. I suppose I could just run a straight line down in that configuration above and not run the filter.

    Anyways, anyone know of a stock A style finned Thomas brand side cover?
     
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  8. Artiki
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    Hey Ernie, first meet is at the Nostalgia Nats, June 27th & 28th. Be good to see you there.
     
  9. CoalTownKid
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    Did a little messing with the T Dirt Track Racer project,...found the cross member I inverted and was going to use was a little messed up so I'm playing with two other ideas for that front end instead

    Then I shortened up the '25 Chevy Radiator Shell. Just need to fill in the slices I needed to make in order to readjust the sides and align the bead going around the inside. A little more messaging into place all over it, then going to properly sand blast it, and finish weld it up,... doing any asthetic work with lead instead of plastic filler.

    Gonna hit the 29 roadster this weekend IF the weather clears up! 10 inches of snow between last night and today! UGH!

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  10. The Thomas side cover is just one piece in a kit from Dan Price for a Model B.

    Inside is a large adjustable oil pump that is plumbed through an adaptor thats bolted to the old fuel pump hole in the block, then to the remote oil filter that bolts to the bottom of the block and then back into the oil gallery via the side plate.

    If I'm reading what you wrote right, then nothing from that will work with an A engine.

    I think Dan Price ( www.dan4banger.com ) owns the rights to the "Thomas" name.

    I have never seen an A Thomas side plate.
     
  11. Elrod
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    Thanks Enbloc for the information.. I was wondering about the fuel pump boss connecting to the oil filter.

    I'm running a Thomas head and Thomas dual intake and wanted a Thomas side cover. I wrote to Dan a few weeks ago, and before that a few months ago. Never have heard from him. I've also called. Makes me kinda worried to buy stuff from him. I know he's the SOSS guy and all, but he doesn't need to be the SONR guy (Secret's of Not Responding)! :D

    I saw that Red's Headers has a No Name side plate. I guess I'll have to go with that.

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  12. GZ
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    Got the rebuilt motor (Thomas head, Winfield downdraft, etc etc.) done for the 28 roadster but won't have time to install it before Autorama this week, so I'll literally be "banging" all the way to Autorama with the noisy old engine. Was hoping to show the 31 coupe at Autorama this year but it's not done, so the roadster will have to do again. Anyone else bringing a banger to Autorama????
     
  13. shock
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    Snyders offers a finned A side cover with no name A-6011 71 bucks:eek:.
     
  14. I don't know if anybody else here uses him, but Rainmaker Ron Cloat and his wife Jane have sold Peoria IL based Standard Auto Parts (specialized in Model A Parts). He was my main supplier of new parts on my RPU, and a huge source of information. They have been trying to sell the business for about a year now, and I received a letter this week stating that it had sold to a new owner here in Illinois. I'm going to miss the trips to their shop, and the chats when I order parts. Good luck to the new owners, and don't change a thing(please). Luke
     
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  15. V4
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    Dan is not the SOSS guy.
    Charlie Yapp is. He has a 'no name' stock Model A side plate as well ($70).
     
  16. Flat Ernie
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    Hopefully, I can make it. I'll be on island by then!
     
  17. Crazydaddyo
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    Matt,
    The intake works real well. Lots of power throughout the rev range.
    Real easy to tune. And it looks good too.

    Changes:
    I am running this on a Model B engine. B's have larger intake and exhaust ports. When I made the exhaust header I opened up the flange and used 1 5/8" tubing instead of 1 1/2".

    Problems:
    The flange that bolts to the block was @ 7/8" too long on the bottom edge. It interfeared with the side cover.

    The intake is @ 1 1/4" too close to the head. It puts the throtle shafts and fuel inlets too close to the distributor. The log needs to move out to the right @ 1 1/4"



    These photos should show it clearer.

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  18. Bluto
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    Mrs Bluto's Valentine's Day present :)

    Little club racer.... just as raced in the 80's and put up fresh ready for the next season... full locker of spares ..... they must have moved to a different class

    We have public road race track 300 yards from here. She'll be able to run the tires off it. Till I get the Miller's ready......
     

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  19. V4F
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    bluto ,
    congrats !!!!! what did you get me !? ........... good for "Z" ..... steve
     
  20. Crazydaddyo
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    Bluto,
    That looks like a blast.
    What engine is that? ... BMC?
     
  21. loogy
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    I'm sure you guys have discussed this before (if so, could someone direct me to the month/year of the said banger meet?), but who has tried a reverse port? I was watching the Old Crow Speed Shop video below:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMTMPi2KLOw&feature=related

    So of course the questions started running through my head. Is it as simple as having a camshaft built and building new intake/exhaust manifolds? Are the efforts worth the gains and at what point?
     
  22. raaf
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    artiki - great site...reading through it all right now at work. :)
     
  23. Bluto
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    Reliant 750

    car weighs 350kgs

    On slicks
     
  24. V4F
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    bluto ,
    you seem to always find the kool stuff ! .................. steve
     
  25. fur biscuit
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    hell, I weigh 350kg on slicks. :D
     
  26. Dirtynails
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    It was mentioned to me last night that the late Briggs Cunningham started his motorsport career in 1927 ( or thereabouts) with a Fronty Ford. Anybody have any pictures of that? . There are pictures of a HAL equipped car he raced in 1933 but that was a different car entirely. :)
     
  27. V4F
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    bluto ,
    your to kool . great find on the racer . i would love to see it done with "Z" in it ....... steve
     
  28. Dirtynails
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    750 class or 848 CC engine? .Has it been destroked to run in the 750 class? :)
     
  29. That's a new one on me. I just wonder who's gonna bang on the carb with a wrench while it's blazing across the salt? ;<)
     
  30. Bluto
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    Not destroked it's a 750cc

    Reliant made 850s later Remember the car was raced with the 750 Motor Club.

    Reliant built 3 wheeled little cars and trucks forever.

    Here's the side valve engine we have. It gets fit in a Rosengart Hot Rod I'm building for Mrs B

    All together the racer looks like these except ours is "pre-wings"

    I'm waiting for main caps for the Miller's motor to continue.
     

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