brake problem!! HELP!!!

ok this is the situation, the purchase this firewall mounted booster master kit, here it is http://www.piratejack.net/Power-Bra...rake-Pedal-Conversion-Kit-Firewall-mount.html

i ran all new lines 10lbs residual pressure valves in in each front wheel and one for the back, the line on the front is split with a "T" and one line going to the back, i bleed the master a few times no air bubbles, the problem is that the pedal is supper spongy and im barely getting any fluid going to the back. any one got any ideas on what to do? thanks in advance

this is the power brake kit


this are the residual valves

 

why did you use residuals?

are your brakes drum/drum or drum disk?

if drum drum you should not need the residuals.
if drum/disk you will need a proportioning valve

 

Dude you don't need the residule valves if the master is above the calipers/wheel cylinders. You only need a prop/combo valve.

 

Do you maybe have your lines crossed at the master?

 

im pretty sure you only need residual valves if the master cylinder is mounted below the calipers or drums. (JAWS beat me to it)

 

Good one too

 

10# valves, and you have three of them total? with a firewall system, its not needed, but i can see it. i have em on my 52.

is this a drum/drum setup?

if its disc in front... 10#?

 

http://www.piratejack.net/Proportioning-Valves-Kits.html
this is what you need

 

he only needs that if it's a drum/disk setup

 

Right, we don't know what he has at the other ends

 

forgot to add that its a drum/drum. the reason i used the valves is becase the guy from pirate jacks said i needed them here is was i found in the piratejacks site

Drum brakes require a 10 lb. residual pressure (RPV10) to counteract the spring tension in the drum system which tends to pull the shoes away from the drums. This will give you a longer pedal travel and "spongy" brakes. The residual valve holds a pressure keeping the shoes near the drums giving a higher firmer pedal. Also required a metering valve (PVM) to the front (the metering valve prevents nose dive).

 

take them off and bleed again,,,you'll see he's full of shit.

 

front port is the for the front wheels, rear port(closer to the firewall) for rear wheels...right?

 

yes

 

ok so i got the order right

 

the only reason you need residuals is if the master is below the floor.if it's above the wheels on the firewall,you don't need the valves at all.

 

not always

 

ok so tomorrow ill remove them and see what happends.

 

Right as rain puddin..

 

i believe his application calls for that plumbing,correct me if i'm wrong.

 

rain puddin?

 

Depends on the valving in the master. How do I put this, um, some don't apply the front and rear at the same time.

 

yeah, rain and puddin!

 

you guy's avatars are scaring me..........

 

boo!

 

yikes..brother man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

This is fun..

 

stay tuned...the brake saga will continue

 

hopefully it wont continue, hopefully tomorrow i can manage to fix it

 

You dont need the residual valves with the master above the wheel .
And whats with the metering valve just plumbed in to the front brakes ? I know metering valves are designed to delay the front brakes for a split second ( anti dive ) but I thought front and rear needed to be plumbed into them, at least the ones I have seen.
Every braking system that I have worked on , the front reservoir is for the rear brakes and the rear is for the front.
But if thats what they say, than who am I to argue.