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Salt Flat style Headers lets see 'em

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Choppa Hanee, Apr 5, 2009.

  1. I am thinking about running those lake style headers on my truck. I would love to see what other folks are running. THANKS!!!
     
  2. ratster
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    what ever you do, don't buy from SANERSON headers.
     
  3. RichFox
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    OK Here it is. My Packard headers off the car, my V4F motor and the Pappas and Stevens Flatmotor. Must be something in there you can use.
     

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  4. saltflatmatt
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  5. I don't have any but I had a dumb *** call me today thinking the side pipes for sale I had were salt flat style headers!
     
  6. hotroddon
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    Mine, I built them from a Patriot Exhaust Products kit and coated with ***anium Ceramic
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  7. RichFox
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    Im not to sure what "Salt Flat style headers" are. But at least the three I showed have run on the salt. I have had a number of cars and engines on the salt. All my headers were what ever I thought would work at the time. Is the above what your calling "Lakes Pipes" now? Sure not what I remember. But tradition dosen't need to be all that traditional I guess.
     
  8. 38FLATTIE
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  9. hotroddon
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    Rich, I think the style I showed are what have generally become what people in this hobby call "Lakesters" or "Salt Flat Style" headers. I do think the general style did come from very early lakes cars and were made out of torque tubes. They have also been called Limefires after the Pete & Jake built car of the same name, but they were around LONG before that.
    May not be relevant to what is run the lakes today but I do think they certainly have some traditional heritage. JMHO
     
  10. RichFox
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    I have seen headers made out of torque tubes. Pretty nice. But the early lakes (pre war and pre drags post war) and Salt Flats are different deals. Bonneville didn't start until '48. The lakes had been going strong for years by then. I first went to the salt in '66. Didn't see much in the way of headers like shown here between now and then. What we called lakes pipes when I was a kid in the fiftys were the cutouts just behind the front wheel. Then customs got long chrome ones that went all the way down the rocker panel to the rear. then they got three openings. Rairly open if they were hooked up at all. Those were "Lakes Pipes" What do you call them now? PS. My roadster has been running on the salt for more than 50 years. Set the B/FR record in '58. I would say it is pretty trad.
     
  11. shifts
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    Matt makes the BEST set of lakes headers I've ever used. I've used 3 sets & the quality cant be beat in my opinion. DAVE
     
  12. marx
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    Here's mine; and another vote for Matt's headers! Highest quality; fair price; and they'll fit! Great guy to do business with, too. -matt
     

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  13. Kirk Hanning
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    Hee's mine from Matt at lakepipes. He has an excellent product and a great guy to deal with.
     

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  14. Justin B
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    frankie wilkinson

    el mirage 1948

    if you are going for a period correct car don't use tubes that taper all the way, the 36 driveshafts only tappered for about 18" then went straight
     

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  15. '32 Ford Hemi Roadster......:D
     

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  16. lowphat53
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    I will have to pile on here and say Matt at lakerheaders.com is DA MAN. He made my headers on my 32, and they are the best thing EVER! I love them and the baffles are nice too but I prefer mine without the baffles most of the time.
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  17. hotroddon
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    Rich, if you look at the photo from 1948 El Mirage in post 14, that is where the style originated. My dad had photos from when he was going to both the lakes and Bonneville starting in 1948 when he graduated H.S. that showed plenty of cars running this type of header. That certainly would be traditional from those days. I would agree that by 66, close to when I first went there also, you didn't see many of that style any longer. To be honest, I really don't know what people called them back then - I just know that has become a very accepted name for the style today, Lakesters or Salt Flat Style.
    I also agree that the small diameter "Side Pipes" were certainly called "Lakes Pipes" by many, especially in the 60's-80's. I also knew cats that called Bellflower tips Lake Pipes, which was clearly wrong.
    The ones behind the front wheels were called "Dumps" or "Cut Outs" in my area.
    Part of this is like anything from way back when, different folks in different areas had different trends and called things by different names. But that is a very accepted and common name used in the industry and hobby now. I don't think people are calling them "Lake Pipes" but Lakesters and Slat Flat Style, definitely
     

  18. I promise it wasn't me
     
  19. Yes sir....this is exactly what I was looking for.
     
  20. 61cad
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    Sanderson Limefires

    (I didn't buy them from Sanderson)
     

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  21. 61CAD....that's a sweet coupe!!!

    I just got off the phone with speedway motors and bought their kit. I am going to try this out producing my own. We'll see what happens:eek:
     
  22. woodbox
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    Heres' mine. No plate to remove, only internal baffling....hope it works!
     

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  23. hotroddon
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    The speedway ones have a nice sweep where the primary tubes intersect the cones, instead of going in straight. Looks much better in my opinion that the way Sanderson does them. Take you time fitting them and they will look great. Good Luck
     
  24. RichFox
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    Well they are pretty cool headers what ever they are. I don't think I'll put them on my vega.
     
  25. hotroddon
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    come on Rich, They'd look Sweet on a "traditional" Vega - especially if it's a Cosworth! :D
     
  26. RichFox
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    Here is an older picture of my roadster that I grabed from another thread here on the HAMB. No "Salt Flats Style headers that i can see. I had funny car Zoomies on the vega for a while. Thought they were cool. You can just see them under the #4
     

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  27. hotroddon
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    The lettering style on the Roadster sure looks late 60's early 70's Hippie Flower Power like. Very cool photo. And way to new for "Salt Flat Style" headers.
    Vega looks like an old drag car. How fast did it go?
     
  28. RichFox
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    I first ran the Vega in 1980 with a 302 GMC stock head motor. It went 177 with that in it. Later with a 455 Pontiac it went 208. Was a stock Vega when I bought it in '79. Never been on a drag strip. Is now Packard powered. Yes that was Flower Power time. But even in '58 it didn't have "Salt Flat Headers" Nobody had ever heard of them at the time.
     
  29. marx
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    Lowphat, are those nickel plated? They look perfect! -marx
     
  30. yule16met
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    These are the speedway kit. You have to know how to weld the thin cones but otherwise there awesome! And the tubes sweep to the rear before blending with the cone and it looks nicer.
     
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