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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by colesy, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    With it "covered with cardboard boxes and anything else you could imagine," did you really get a good look?

    If it was Burgundy, it might be Billy Niedergesas's long-lost '55 N/SA delivery. Billy put it together (a bit 'late in the game') sometime around 1970. It looked really great, but with the heavy-pistoned TRW motor and stone stock Hydro, it turned sub-par 14.90s and Billy lost interest in it immediately. Best I remember, it was never 'lettered' for the brief time he had it. Billy also had a very-nice (Dark Green) daily driver '55 4-dr Wagon around that same time ... till it was stolen from his Glen Burnie, MD place of work. A few weeks later we were chatting in the staging lanes at Capitol when 'guess what' (now in red primer) pulls in and ...

    Sorry, I digress. Alas, Billy (R.I.P.) really enjoyed life -- and he sure had a lot of cars!
     
  2. DW31S
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    HI again guys, Here is a little more of what I know. The car is (was) silver and black with no lettering. I saw the car years ago before it went into long-term storage and the paint was pretty nice. I am not 100% sure if it was a 150 handyman wagon with the rear side windows painted or a sedan delivery---remember this was many years ago. I recently saw a DVD of a re-broadcast of the Super Stock Nationals and saw a glimpse of the car--Black and Silver with no lettering. I will keep everyone informed if I am able to gain any info. and ask that if anybody knows this car to please help.
     
  3. DW31S
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    About Billy-- He sure did have alot of cars. I built a bracket '68 Camaro that was a legal Super Gas car that I used to butt heads with Billy when he had a black Beretta. Honestly, he beat me at the track and at the I.S.C.A. car shows. Steve Kramer did alot of work on both cars and they were built within weeks of each other. I think he had a rail after that and sold it to a guy that worked at our dealership.
     
  4. jakethefake
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    looking back to page 105 post#2091 jack had a great day .the 100.00 dollars was great [1965].but he won't forget the throphy or besting bill spanakas [MONSTER MASH] on that day .this is the wagon that he sold to JOE DOUGHERTY .thanks JAKE
     
  5. X-TECH MAN
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    Could it be the REICH Brothers 57 2 door wagon? It was silver and black, 245/283 P/G (2 fours w/hydraulic cam) and ran N/SA at Capitol Raceway in 1970-1971. It was mostly unlettered and ran Cragar S/S wheels.
     
  6. JollyGreenGiant
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    Bash Speed Shop was on Green St in Germantown. I visited there often and got to know Frank Jr, Dave and Mitch. They did a lot of Grumpy's machine work. Mitch was a great guy that helped me fabricate a homade shifter for the Powerglide we put in the McMaster & Gunning '57 in 1971. I still have a dual intake and Fenton headers he gave me for my 6 cy. '39 Chevy. Sadly Mitch passed awayt some years ago. Sorry if I'm late with my reply but I just found this thread and will try to catch up quickly.
     
  7. Jim Pizzi
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    Was that a Jenkins sticker under Tonys sticker?
     
  8. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    Yes, and you probably also noticed that he is using a Stahl header on one bank and a Hooker on the other ... Double contingency money ;)!
     
  9. Jim Pizzi
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    I remember a story that a friend of mine told me about Tony and Grunpy. They were at a major meet and Tony was either going to make a pass or coming back from making a pass and he pulled up behind Grumpys car and yelled to Bill Hey Bill, the Holly tech guy is here if you need any help! They had a strange relationship!
     
  10. JollyGreenGiant
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    I remember that the run for class was very close and we won by about a fender on the top end. I think the other car was the Malone, Rodriguez, Kennedy '57 Chevy. After the run was fuel check, weight check and general inspection such as tire width, inside, under hood and trunk check. I left a tow hub in the trunk which they called ballast and made me remove it and go back to the scales for another weight check. Because our weight was so close I removed my sneekers and put them under the seat. I was sure they would bounce me for weight but the weight was exactly the same. Lucky Me! That was the last national meet that car ran. Sadly, Alan McMaster passed away the following year.
     
  11. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    Thanks Ken ... Sure looks like your memory is 'firing on all cylinders'!

    * Here's the M,R&K car ... on that day. And your 'pit neighbor' was ... Claude Urevig.
     

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  12. 57 delivery
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    I read in an old magazine (which is all I keep) that the NHRA was trying to make the newer cars more desirable. I think it had a 69 Biscayne in the lead article picture. I think they started to outlaw the Hydros,then the 4 speeds etc to make them just fade away,right??I am sure everyone would agree that there would have been no harm back then to just let them run....would be fun to even be able to try to compete now with those big money late Stockers with old 283 power.....
     
  13. Bob Rice
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    Bud's was a sedan delivery, black with Cragar wheels. A very clean car.
     
  14. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    Yea, so right ... guess the 'beginning of the end' all started here ...

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  15. JollyGreenGiant
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  16. JollyGreenGiant
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    I've looked at that photo over and over and can only guess it may be YORK US30. Anyone have any other ideas? I'm sure the year 1967.
     
  17. DW31S
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    It very well could be the "REICH" car. I know it had Cragars (at least on the front) and those were the colors. I went by the house today and nothing looks any different than it did the last time I was there. The "garage" is surrounded by old cars that don't run and the front porch was boarded up so I did not knock on the door.
     
  18. P426
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    This fella looks familiar...

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  20. P426
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    Dean,

    No, that's not from Raceway News...but it does look familiar. It's a very good possibility I have the issue (that's why pic looks familiar). I just don't know which one!

    I'll have to think about this one...

    Pete
     
  21. OK all you Junior Stock racers & fans, it's time to step up, get on board and support this project. There's more of you than the Gasser and Dragster guys, so dig deep and help get this race to the finish line.
     
  22. P426
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    I have that issue where it's mentioned. I remember reading about that 'controversy' way back when it happened. If I recall correctly, he got suspended from racing for an entire year 'cause of that. Yes, indeed, I'm familiar with ol' H.B. and it doesn't surprise me. ;) I heard lots of stories about his street racing exploits. I even met and talked to him a couple times at his store; last time being about 5 years ago.

    "is currently handeling maintaince on an A/SA Camaro that looks alot like the one he ran."

    That's because it is his old Camaro. It is owned by Steve Sawka. As far as handling maintenance is concerned, that's news to me. Never heard about the SS/EA car; gotta ask a longtime acquaintence who's known H.B. since the mid-1970s about that car.

    Btw, H.B. briefly ran a SS/B 1965 A-990 Mopar. I believe someone whose last name was Peters was his partner and/or driver. I was told by a long-time racer 'they' bent all (or most) the valves in the big, bad 426 Hemi. Why/how? H.B. installed a then, state-of-the-art, R-290 Crane roller camshaft in the engine but neglected/forgot/didn't know to 'clip' the outside edge of each valve head (to reduce circumferance) to avoid valve-to-valve interference (during overlap) as per Chrysler Race Group's instructions.

    Well, what do you expect from a Chevy guy working on a Hemi? :D

    Pete
     
  23. 56 Pontiac I/SA
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    Ken ... in case you missed it (in an earlier post) here ... that same day, is yet another well-known car pitted close to your ride and Claude's wagon. Yes, that IS the Scotto & Blevins '55 (G/MP) Nomad just 'peeking out' behind George's wagon.
     

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  24. Rocket Surgeon
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    It's T.K. working for P.B.-Son of Sam. T.K. ran/owned? it before Swalka. In 1970 I went to the speed shop in Sayerville that used the name of Les Richey's in Ca. There was a picture un the wall of H.B.'s Pro Stock Nova with the caption "Cheat and win"
     
  25. Rocket Surgeon
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    T.K. was also called Peeping Tom.
     
  26. Rocket Surgeon
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    The SS/EA car was T.K. ,Not H.B.
     
  27. P426
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    Ditto for his street racing exploits too (or so I heard). :D

    Btw, did the Nova Pro/S belong to H.B. or Ernie Shead? I forget now.

    Pete
     
  28. P426
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    Toms Inc.?

    Pete
     
  29. Rocket Surgeon
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  30. P426
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    I remember it well. It was the first SS/EA car to run in the nines...a big deal at the time.

    Pete
     

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