@##$#ing oil filter is stuck,any ideals

i was thinkin you could get a notch or decent grove in the thickest metal part(probably twards the block. and use something to hammer into the notch in the loosen direction. if that makes sence. we used to use this technique in the oil field with specialized nuts that would break.

 

Cut the bottom off - stuff a piece of heavy pipe a bit smaller than the can in there - then pipe wrench it ...

 

Here's a picture I lifted from ebay

 

Large water pump pliers, chain wrench, strap wrench

 

Thanks for all the help guy's.I have not had a good night sleep in a while so i going to head to the house get a meal and some sleep before i do something stupid like stick a fucking torch to this project.Please excuse my french.The filter will be just has stuck in the morning.I will deal with it then .Again thanks to all

 

Damn civilians!

Just kidding, I was thinking what my old drill sergeant used to say when I wanted to give up a certain task. But things always look better in the morning.

 

These are available for $9-$15 and work better than anything else... "PERIOD"!

I've had a breaker bar on a couple of them... but they came off and in one piece!

 

Hey if you want to get rid of the truck, I'll give you a hundred bucks....

Seriously, get some sleep and give a shot in the AM. I'll see you this weekend but leave the jaigerbombs in H-town, would ya'?

 

My brother completely destroyed one trying to get it of an SBC in the 70s and gave up. I pulled the remaining sheetmetal off and spent about 1/2 hour hitting the base plate at an angle with a cold chisel, until it loosened up. It was not fun. I guess he had tightened the hell out of it when he had originally installed the filter. Apparently REALLY overtightening it can warp the base plate a bit and make it near impossible to get off. Its just a sucky job to get it off, not the end of the world or anything.

 

Whatever you try, wear some heavy leather gloves so you don't get cut by the sheet metal can!

 

either a strap wrench or i had to use a chisel on the ring before.

 

I ran into this problem before. A buddy of my Dads who was an old-time rodder/mechanic had made something similar to this that went into the holes in the filter base. It was made to go into the holes and twist the base plate off AFTER you have removed the rest of the filter. I believe it was made as the answer to a problem he had with FRAM filters.....
His was basically a round metal plate with some holes drilled into it to match the holes in the filter base, he then just stuck some bolts through and welded them on, along with an old socket onto the back side. It worked like a champ!!!

 

All the above methods are great suggestions...but have a good sleep and tackle it in the morning...it seems like you will be chisseling it off.

But the duct taping the begeezes out of it then driving a screw driver through seems like a heck of an idea...that ones going in the vault for future refrence!!

 

Hahaha!
Bingo and I'm standing on the side of a big assed mountain in Western Australia with a 68kg pack on my back in what seemed like week 457 of the SF selection course.
'Get your ass up that fucking hill you wanna be civilian piece of shit'

I got my ass up that hill!

Doc.

 

I have a pair of large channel locks that has never failed to get one off. I you spent 2 hours on it there should not be much left.

 

Everybody listen up!!!!!

My first real paying job was in the lube bay of an automotive shop. I have dealt with this before...

I have read everyones replys to make sure this was covered and no one said so here ya are.


When you run into this situation; before you go forcing it off with whatever you think you can leverage yourself with, just ttry this one time and it will surprise you.

Instead of taking it off, tighten it enough to move the threads, then take it right off!!!!!! It works. Doesnt take a screwdriver, strap, or chain.

 

Some body forgot to lube the gasket before installing the filter.
Every filter that has given me trouble coming off was due to dry gasket..( and there have been several ! )
After you destroy the rest of the filter and finally get the base to unscrew I bet you will find the gasket still stuck to the block.
Dave

 

I've used this trick before and it worked...good luck

 

Yes, had this problem on the truck I just got.. tight filter and when it came out the gasket was dry. This was after I'd pretty well destroyed the filter because the screwdrivers I put through it wanted to rip it apart instead of turn it. No fun.

Now I lube them when I put one on because it's a simple matter after I fill the filter with some oil so there's pressure the next time I go to start it.

 

All of the suggestions of grabbing onto the filter can are worthless at this point as your problem has escalated way past that point. Now rip the rest of the can off and discard all of the paper. Cut the remains of the can off so you can get to the filter base that screws onto the block adapter. All of these bases have a row of holes in them. At this point you have a couple of options. If you can find a spanner wrench or a spindle wrench socket like the 4-wheel drives used you can modify it to grab the hole set that the filter has and these did come in various sizes,or you can carefully chizzel the damn thing off. And I do mean Carefully !! Patience wil win this battle !! I hope this helps EP5x >>>>.

 

Good point. And lube with engine oil only. Grease will seize them same as dry ...

 

If it is torn up, two pieces of flat stock with whatever of the filter in between, clamped by a vise-grip, with the grip handle pointing down. Heat up the filter top with a heat gun, tap the vice-grip to unscrew, should come off.

 

righty tighty,, lefty looses Im just sayin....

 

I've snapped my wrist bone trying to take a stuck filter off. Seems they don't teach the fast lube kids how to install a filter, even though it says it right on the filter itself! I think there should be a mandatory class in all high schools... "HOW TO PROPERLY MAINTAIN A MOTOR VEHICLE 101" That covers the basics like oil changes, fluid level checks, jack operation, spare tire changes, roadside emergencies, & general all around upkeep. This would give kids real world experience and we'd have less morons driving & working on vehicles.

Sorry, anyway...

Now that you have the filter torn all to hell, bust out a hammer & punch. Hit the filter from the side near the block like you're trying to loosen it. Not straight into it, like you did with the screwdriver, but hit the upper left edge like you're trying to twist it off. If you have an impact hammer and a blunt tip chisel head, turn down the air pressure and hammer on it in the same fashion. All it takes is about 1/4 turn and you should be able to spin it free by hand.

Good luck man!

 

Oil Filter Pliers
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_35730_35730

 

Too late now, but normally if the standard filter wrench does not work, fold a piece of sandpaper over so it is rough on both sides and wrap that around the filter under the wrench. This gives you the ability to transmit a ton of torque if the standard wrench is slipping.

 

My neighbor tried to change the oil in his daughters two year old new to her Vega.
It looks like someone used a wrench to put it on.
Not sure if they oiled it.

What worked for use was to use two of my flat strap filter wrenches with both of us cranking.
One guy on each wrench.
Came right off with double torque appllied.

I'm glad to see the comments on oiling the gasket ring with motor oil.

Are y'all installing them by hand only?
Just one hand and turning the filter about 3/4 turn after contact with the filter pad?

Pretty sure most of you are, but thought I'd mention it.

It is surprising how much torque you have to apply to get a properly installed one off with a filter wrench after just hand torque is applied during installation.


Ya know, somebody ought to make a can that takes a separate element and has a removable top and small drain plug on the bottom.
Connect it to the engine with high pressure hose, might free up some engine room.

Heck, even cast one out of aluminum with cooling fins and the like.

I bet they'd sell like hotcakes....

 

WTF? Remove the threads? From the filter or oil filter adapter? Is that the same technique the "automotive shop" you worked at used on drain plugs?

 

BBobb, are you still with us??

I feel for you man, your in a scramble mode & you have to deal with a stupid problem like this, it'll drive you batshit crazy man.

You'll get it, good call on the time out for a meal & some sleep, good call.

for the rest of your life you will carry deep hatred & resentment for jiffy lube.

I'm not sharing any advice because it's all been covered already, just wishing you luck.

have patience.

 

Yes these things worked very good for me! I had an oil filter stuck once and a friend had one of these strap wrenches and took it right off with a 1/2" ratchet. Nothing else would move it.