There ya' go. We're all overthinking this deal. Clean, simple and doable. Stick the trans on the right engine and tell the p***enger to shutup and put his feet wherever
If he does it i might want to try ...i like any thing but the same ol small block ford or chevrolet and an automatic transmission. Thats why my nail head is a 5 speed. The s/b -auto power plant is over used due to the fact it's easy! We don't want easy, we want cool
I do have alot of sketches, but my hands are kinda shakey. They arent very descernable. I could try to make one with the help of one my kids though if your interested.
Now there's an Idea with some merit. That way you engineer a fail mode into the design A belt shredding would be much less catastrophic than chewing up gears or shooting a chain into traffic. On a drag car the belt is pulling around a big blower, but on the street the belt, would at least some of the time, be pulling around another motor. Would a running 250-300 hp street Inline have a comparable drag and force to a 1000 hp blower? Also upon starting the belt would provide the force to spin the opposite motor in order for it to start, Or could you run a starter on each motor? That would be great. But don't go to too much trouble, If you can explain it I'm sure we'll understand what your thinking. Jeff
Nothing to it!! Just go to a tractor-pull. You'll see side-by-side, 3-engines, 4-engines and even 5-engines all hooked into one rear wheel drive axle. And they damn-sure GO!! Try www.ntpa.com Or go to www.youtube.com and search "tractor pull". You'll see dozens of videos of them running. There's one video I love showing TWO side-by-side Allison V-12's and even one with THREE side-by-side Allison V-12's! You'd sure get more looks & attention with something like a T-bucket with two, side-by-side I-6's than a cotton-picken SBC! Somebody probably said in about 1955 that "Puttin a Chevy V-8 in a Ford was stupid" too. JG
Done researched the tractor pull stuff. They are single gearing monsters. I am aiming for street. I am aiming for running independant or together. I wanted a single induction, I dont think I can work that one out though.
Just for the heck of it, here's the video clip of the three Allisons. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7kJF-LjosU The tractor-pull engines are coupled by custom-made (and very lightweight) gear-boxes ($$$) with two (or 3) inputs that feed into a single central output and then a single clutch, (more $$$), and then a single driveshaft to the rear axle. The reason they are very lightweight is because each tractor is limited by the rules as to how much the total weight can be. (I THINK 10,000 lbs.) So they want that weight to be in ENGINES, not gear boxes! If what you are thinking about was easy, (or cheap), everybody would have done it by now. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there aren't even some comercially available industrial gearboxes like this for coupling two engines together, OR, for splitting one engine into two outputs at a 1:1 ratio. A company called 'Cotta' comes to mind as manufacturing all kinds of power transmission gear boxes for various truck, firetruck, concrete-mixer, and marine applications. This kind of stuff usually gets melted down eventually after it eventually ends up in s**** yards. Various oil-field trucks and fire trucks used 1:1 split-power-take-offs. JG
Monsters, yes. Single gearing, No. They have multiple-speed (usually 6 or 7-speed truck transmissions behind the single clutch and the 'splitter' box. It is a major part of tractor-pulling as to what gear is selected before the run depending on track conditions and wheel-speed desired. The same set-up could be used in a street vehicle with either a 3-speed, 4-speed or even an automatic trans. behind the splitter box. JG
There's an 'early' Nova that shows up in Yuma every year with two sixes in there. BUT, they're V-6s and inline. On first glance you think, hummmm nice polished firewall, then you do a double take..................
Two I-6's in line would be real simple, (double-row chain coupler) but would require one heck of a wheelbase and hood length! Would look wild though! ;o) JG
Somebody once proposed on one of the many twin engine threads here, using a transfer case from a 4wd truck. It has two shafts foward, one in one out. He thought there was no reason they couldn't be both used as inputs. The normal rear output shaft would work as always. Sounded good. Nothing new about twin engine cars or V belt blower drives. It's the backwards head that drew the attention.
Anybody know if Beck's Machine Shop's side-by-side Chevy 261 ever got finished ? There are some pictures on an outdated webpage if you click on the drawing. Last time I talked to him in 2007 he was moving to St. Barbara.
Here's one reason "why not a this, a that, or the other?": 12. Flathead v8 or inlines, pre-1962 inline engines with stock cylinder blocks only. No exotic aftermarket inline six overhead valve heads (Wayne). No OHV V8s or V6s.
SSSSHHHHHHHH, dont remind everyone that didnt pay attention, they think they know better than, well, uh never mind. And it wasn't proposed, it was a done deal.
Not sure why.....no biggie, it was a very abstract sketch showing the rotation of two parallel motors with another gear/sprocket/whatever in between. More to get the idea in my brain than anything else.
I am trying to understand this post. looks like the rules for XO engine cl***. A cl*** that I have had some experiance with. XO/BGAlt record holder since 1980. But what is the point being made here?
An idea that I had a while back,just because I thought it would be cool, and for no other reason , was to run 2 mopar slant sixes,side by side. one would be turned backwards, and run a front differental, and the other would run the rear. They would look like a big V 12, and maybe could share the same custom intake?
OK so I`m not am engineer! But I read am thread about a flat head 60 ran upside down, and I think they said they ran the engine backwards? could this be done on a 6 then run the intake through the exhaust and exhaust through the intake thus not having to flip the head?
NO.... its two of them.... side-by-side....... with superchargers. So what do you do for a gearbox ?..... Two of them.... side-by-side......with a "synchronized" shifter.
It would be even easier with a pair of electronic auto transmissions. They will both shift together if they are electrically connected to the same electronic control "brain". Use two diffs fitted with spools, so each diff drives just one rear wheel. I would still prefer a proper V12 though.
Oh great! Now I have to think about the side by side w blower belt idea...gee thanks, now I'll subconciously be keeping my eye out for a pair of I-6's! LOL I think 2 I-6's, 2 auto ******s, & 2 diff....seen some 60's show-rod done up like that, only w v8's. Also dig the 4x4 transfercase idea....if you do it use a NP205, cast iron case & gear driven(no chain like many...). One tough sum-*****! ......wait, I HAVE a NP205 laying around.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm -John
Maybe it should've read "why not a this engine (i.e. V12) ... " The cl*** is HA/GR. Making any more sense?
Almost forgot....I've solved the "extra weight on the steering" crisis...a new fangled contraption called a power steering box! Hahahahahahaha! So, 2 ford 300cid sixes, 2 c4 auto ******s, 2 9" ford diffs installed into one axle, & power steering. There. All figured out.....lol I love this board! -John
Hahah, hell no. I was watching topgear the other day and at high way speed a BMW M3 has better mileage then a prius
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