I am with pasadenahotrod. Salvage what you can and your work space will allow as far as the body and chassis. I would leave the motor and tranny to the woods though unless you need another boat anchor. As far as payment they laughed at you to begin with. $50 and a hand shake.
I Can't even belive in the same sentence you said you want to make a Modified but won't use the frame !!! If you used the Body, Frame, Suspension & a Super Cool "B" or "A" Banger or even a V8-60 in there you would have one THEEE Coolest Modifieds out. I never know why SO MANY people Discount these Old Wild Frame in there builds. Not EVERY Rod built has to have a SBC & Rectangle tube frame. Use the Wierd & Obscure to Build a Super Bitchen Willys Modified Dirt Track car That Looks like it came fron the '30s
Who said anything about an SBC and square tube frame? I was thinking more along the lines of a Poly Spitfire and a tube chassis. lol I see your point though. Would be kinda of a neat ride with the stock stuff.
I was "Just Sayin" cus its such a trend on the HAMB to build "TRADITIONAL" cars with Tube frames & SBC. Not saying you were, Just seems what is Popular with people. Just my thoughts that the wierd Chassis on that thing would make a super cool modified. If it were available to me, I have this Funky 4 Banger from a '40 Ford truck & Top Shift 3spd i would drop in there. Looks like it could be a REALLY Fun Build !!
Nopers. Whippet touring cars, at least from what I've seen, all had square doors, not radius'd corners. Along with other body differences....
I have stumbled across cars like that but too far gone unlike yours which should by now be on a trailer heading to your house! I like to imagine the different scenarios as to how they get into the middle of the woods. Bank robber, couple got stuck, etc. Very cool car and that makes you cool too in my book!
Hashing out the details to pick it up and correlate schedules with smitty to make a day out of picking up a bunch of hot rod parts up in this part of gods country. I'm gonna score it all, and as neat as that mill is it's been sitting in the woods since 1958 or so without a carb or anything on it.... I think it might be stuck pretty bad! hahahaha
Stick it on an S-10 chassis with a 10 bolt rear, 305 and TH350 and call her done...hahaha...how about you drop off the whole works at your old pal Johnny's new house and let me go dirt trackin' with it in my backyard?
I'd haul everything out of there, somewere someone will need some bit of it. The front axle was a common upgrade on Model T Ford powered race cars. Hope the doors are there, I realy don't think $200.00 is out of line to give the guy, it is way past being a restoration project, parts is parts.
Well, as I kind of expected, he said he would just let me grab it, then he said his wife still might want it to put in the garden..... haha So, I made him an offer. 3 bills for the whole works. Explained that I don't necessarily want it for the rarity of it by any means, just that I want the body and frame. The motor is most likely useless since its QUITE locked up, etc. and I'm not gonna pay restoration prices, not that this would be a good candidate for that anyhow. Boils down to the idea that for any more than that I might as well just hunt down a T instead. So, we'll see. I figured that it has enough parts (like a working transmission, etc.) that I could probably get my money back on it selling that stuff if I cleaned it all up.
I haven't closed on the house yet...I guess I'll just have to wait for some rusty shit of my own to fall in my lap when I get settled in...
I love how a car like that can sit in the woods for 60 years, then as soon as someone wants to buy it, the wife decides she wants it in the garden.
Or as soon as you find something cool to drag home, all your asshole friends think you should sell it to them dirt cheap instead of keeping it for yourself...hehehe...
Here's a few Overland pics from Coker Tires restoration shop. Alot of cool stuff going on in there. Later, Kevin Ooltewah Speed Shop
hey, im glad you checked it out and got pics! Thats the same body as my bucket that I posted earlier (front half). I think the $300 you offered is a fair price, I hope you get it.
That car at Corkey's looks very much like the one a friend of mine pulled from the woods here in mid TN. It turned out to be a 1916 Overland that looked very much like mpls/cafe/racer's. He's doing nothing with it, just wanted it and now it sits i pieces in his shed. I'd seen the car in the woods for years, kinda wished I'd grabbed it, but likewise it was a little too far gone for restoring and I didn't need another rod project. Still, would have made an attention grabber! Traditional is cool but unique can be cool too!
I'm working on it. Turns out she may be intersted in having something done that would be custom yard art for her garden instead. So, I might get a trade for her together. Some kind of steel garden sculpture. (I'm a welder/fabricator by trade). We'll see. Either way I would really like to pick it up.
Alright! A deal has been hashed out, trade for some garden sculpture artwork. I'm gonna be chopping it into a modified!!!!
I just shake my head whenever I hear about guys taking phaeton bodies and cutting them in half to discard the back section to make a modfied with the front. Ever notice that when a phaeton is kept a phaeton, the magazine scratch about them usually describes them as a reveered rarity something others covet. If the body is pretty rough, then doing away with the back half isn't a shame, but the body is so straight sided and simple, it would be pretty easy to fix it if you had the skills and equipment to do so. The doors have no sculpture lines on them and wouldn't be too hard to build from scratch either. I have wanted a pheaton really bad because coupes and roadsters only share the fun with one other person. Phaetons exemplify the cliche' " the more...the merrier!" Thats why I wanted a phaeton so bad...to haul kids, family and freinds around in masses. The 1924 model 91 phaetons cost $525 new. Some features of them were that they were advertised to get 25 miles per gallon. The rear seat sections and door panels were removable to be able to haul things when used on the farm. The spring design was a new concept for the day. Other than wooden floors, the car does not have a wooden inner structure like the fords. It is an all steel body which Overland marketed as a safety feature. I found 6 original ads in magazines that were in the shed that came with my house when I bought it several years ago. I just bought what I think is a 1924 Willys Overland Model 91 touring car at the spring Carlisle swap meet for 5 tmes what the car cost new. It is pretty complete and very solid for its age. I bought an S-10 for $100 for the running gear to be the donor car for my project. I plan on using a 2.8 V-6 with 5 speed tranny and the rear to motor around with. I will make my own chassis and put the body on it, then hope to restore the original chassis and one day may return the body to the chassis to keep the matched set in tact. But for now it will just sit while I continue to work to finish my 28 A roadster project. Does your car have the top iron brachets that held the top mechanism when it was folded down? If so....would you part with them? I still have some parts to get that are to come with my car. Does anyone know where to find the vin number on the frame or other part of the chassis since I need to find it to apply for a title. Good luck with your project!
As mentioned in the desciption in the thread, the back half of this body is pretty crappy. If you pick the body up off the ground the back half will literally sag and break off nearly. Not worth saving. I could make doors for sure, but honestly I'd rather just waste my time buying them. lol I'm gonna call a few people from the Overland Willys registry tomorrow and see if I can track down a pair of doors. If I can't, then yeah, I'll have to build some. I'd like to know where to look for the VIN on this chassis too though.
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