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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Knucklehead29, Jun 20, 2009.

  1. maniac
    Joined: Jul 11, 2005
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    I'm pretty sure in ANY state an unregistered car is just that........unregistered, a ticket at the very least, and/or an impound.

    I have driven around the block with no plates, just to test, but never any further than that.
     
  2. dannyego
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    been there done that. Improper use of registration. $75 dollar fine, and I had to prove I got proper registration by my court date. First cop let me off. The cop that nailed me called for back up of eight cars and approached with guns drawn:eek:
     
  3. russnunn
    Joined: May 13, 2009
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    hey bud,
    I have a 53 chev 210 and it takes me 30 mins to go 10 mins up the road because people slow down and look. All eyes are on you in that beauty. I have had cops pull me over just to talk about the car and I am a damn detective so I would not take the chance. I do not know the laws in Texas but in Florida you get caught with plates that are not registered to that car and you will be in a world of hurt. I know you want to cruise but it is better to look at it in your drive way than it is looking at it through the fence at the impound yard.
     
  4. Salty
    Joined: Jul 24, 2006
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    from Florida

    Like Russnunn said, In FL, I run the plate before I even stop ya...that YOM plate aint gonna come back to anything, so I'm gonna stop ya...Now would I likely do much other than ask you what the hell were you thinking and politely inform you that your a dumb***? Likley no...BUT other Officers arn't so old car friendly and will seize your plates (you wont get it back), impound your car, and write ya for attach tag not ***igned which is a criminal citation. Heck while they are at it they'll write ya up for any other violations that they spot as well...we work off a rule of three, we can only write three citations to someone that is not going to jail, and can write as many as the law allows if you are going to jail...We dont have quotas round here so that aint an issue.

    IF the officer elects to NOT take you to jail (Officer discretion on that one) you gotta show up to court within 30 days....the officer doesnt have to be there so dont think your gonna get off when the officer doesnt walk through the doors....your *** is still in a bind. The judges round here dont typically like folks that skirt the law SO you'll likley loose your licence and pay about $2000 in fees, court costs etc...then have to wait your time out on the licence and then pay all the reinstatement fees, ($500).

    OH and all the while your car is in impound....and the way impound round here works, the registered owner has to show up with the original registration and insurance paperwork...not copys and they are not allowed by law to let you access the vehicle prior to releasing the vehicle. You cant prove the car is yours so therefore you wont get it back....after it sits for 30 days in impound the tow company places a lean on the vehicle, gets a ***le in their name and its theirs.

    Yeah, I wouldnt drive it....but thats just me.

    Your results may vary.
     
  5. J'st Wandering
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    There you go. Solves the ***le problem, now doesn't it? :)

    Neal
     
  6. patrick66
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    I really can't believe this is actually a question here! Common sense obviously did not play a factor in the original post.
     
  7. 30dodge
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    When your car gets impounded buy it at auction and get a clear ***le.
     
  8. rick finch
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    Hmmm......common sense = rare commodity these days.:rolleyes:
     
  9. TrannyMan
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    I got six cars and haven't bought a plate for any of them. I run plates that are matching to the year of the car and some times an inspection sticker. Knock on wood I have never been stopped. I have had police officers sitting behind me at lights, watch me go around the u-turns under the overp***, never have even been asked to pull over.

    One thing you never do is run with something expired, it's a sure sign for them to get you. If the sticker on the dash is expired, peel it off.

    It's all really falls back on the Clint Eastwood Line...........Do you feel lucky?


    Heck, go online...buy some plates from another state....if you get pulled over tell em you just bought it and haven't registered it yet. It would have to be a real *ick of a cop to tow you off.
     
  10. oldebob
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    from Spokane WA

    Isn't Texas the place where they still have Prison Farms?
     
  11. rick finch
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    Ha! best line yet....
     
  12. Chaz
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    What about that restraining order?
     
  13. panic
    Joined: Jan 3, 2004
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    What is the worst that could happen?

    I can only comment on New York:
    1. lose the car - permanently
    2. license revoked
    3. huge fine
    4. jail (no insurance, because the policy doesn't specify the car)
     
  14. SteadyT
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    Holy cow, could that cost as much as the car itself?

    24 days in an impound lot could get $$$$$$$ and the wrecker fee here at our local lot is $250.
     
  15. patrick66
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    Most local impound lots charge from $50 to $100 per day. Plus the tow. Plus the paperwork fee. Plus whatever else they feel like tacking on to the total.
     
  16. Gigantor
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    They don't call you Knucklehead for nothing, do they? I wouldn't if I were you.
     
  17. maniac
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    Plus whatever they feel the want off YOUR car,


    "hey it wasn't on there when it got here":mad:
     
  18. patrick66
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    That is so true!!!
     
  19. RichG
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    You'll probably get more responses tomorrow when the prisoners get to use the computers in the library that is closed on the weekends...
     
  20. torchmann
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    perfect!
    what about the texas surcharge law for not having current proof of insurance or registration?
    I don't see how they can keep you from claiming your car without registration and insurance as long as any liens against it are settled. You might have to pay the property and sales tax to satisfy any tax liability but registration and insurance is only for operation on a public highway because the entire motor vehicle code applies to operation on a public highway. Operation on private property is a right and cannot be regulated untill it becomes a crime punishible by incarceration to posess your own car without a "license to own the car".
    Actually because the state has required registration and insurance to operate a motor vehicle on the public highway thay MUST provide a due process by which the car may be registered and insured. Someone cannot just decide to not let you ***le and plate your car if you are financially responsible and a man of the law (homo legalis= not a wanted criminal) just because they don't like it or you. They have the duty to do it not the option. The cons***ution says the powers not granted by it to to the fed or the state are reseved by the people. this also means that if the fed fails to carry out it's cons***utional duties it is the right of the states to take jurisdiction and if the states fail then it is the people's right to take jurisdiction. Therefore the state MUST carry out it's duties or they revert to the people.
    If a person sworn in to carry out the duties of public office refuses to do so they can be removed from office for it by the courts.
    A license is defined as permission to engage in an illegal activity.
    It is a crime to engage in the illegal activity without a license.
    Violating the rules of the licence is called an offence
    Commission of a crime against statute is criminal misdemeanor/felony and causes the legal jeopardy to fall on the person punishible by fines and imprisonment.
    Commission of an offence against regulation is civil and causes the legal jeopardy to fall on the licence to engage in the regulated activity and is punishable by fines levied against the license or resulting in revocation of the license.

    The civil motor vehicle code wasn't law until they first made it illegal to operate on the public highways (highway is defined as any public right of way, road, trail, water, air etc.) without a license, then they could enforce regulation on the privelege. before that, it was a right and could not be regulated.
    It's a right to own a car or anything else that's not contraband.
    It's still a right to drive a car, to operate your personal property, it's just a privelege to do it on a public highway which is the only use the supreme court would allow regulation of so as not to infringe on the right to own and operate property.
    Paperwork is only required for operation on a public highway so if you show up with a wrecker what can they say, you don't have the right for it to be in your possession? your ticket from the officer is proof of it in your possession or someone else would have been cited, and if it were stolen you'd have been charged for it.
     
  21. Road_Rage_Rube
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    in germany you have to pay big time!!!!
     
  22. plym49
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    That is a really interesting argument. Does it have any legal legs? Said another way, what Catch22 is used to prevent this type of 'recovery' scenario from occurring?
     
  23. Do it
    get pulled over and let us knowasap what happens
    so we won't do thestupid wrong thing ... Next time
     
  24. 88daryl88
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    In Oz, cops travel in unmarked cars punching rego. (license plate) numbers into laptop computers, they pick-up un-registered cars, false plates, stolen vehicles, un-paid fines, outstanding warrants ...........whatever you've got.;)
     
  25. rustycarr
    Joined: May 30, 2006
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    from TX

    Get antique insurance, take your Year of Make plates to the DMV with your insurance, then register the YOM plates in your name , then put them on your car. THen Cruise.
     
  26. torchmann
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    That's all the way the laws supposed to be, the way and by what rights it was written. There's not a lot one man can do to prevent public service from going out of bounds without popular support. I think people who get into office aren't always proficient, they may be bright, they might mean well but they don't always understand things as they are written and don't heed legislative precedence contradicting laws get p***ed and judges set judicial precedence derogatory to the protections of the law . They weren't written by one man or a little group of men they call the founding fathers. Justice has been authored by millions throughout the ages, we are exposed to a sliver of it but there is a resounding spine of liberty that runs through the law which government must respect if it is to remain in authority because the law is really for the good of the people.
    We The people of (insert state here) does not mean the government of that state but the persons. We the people are we the persons not we the governors. The highest authority in this country is a jury of your peers
    The reason for writing things down, giving writ the force and effect of law is so it can be scrutinized, debated, held up to judgement weighed in the balance of justice. A lot of folks are functionally literate. lawmakers must be exceptionally literate and laws cannot be vague or misleading and they must concur with the body of law. They cannot be arbitrary or capricious.
    Common law or Natural law is the founding vessel of the cons***ution which in turn is the vehicle for the establishment of the States and the Nation. Your rights are self evident they are not given to you but you must fight for them daily or they will be stolen away by govenors drunk on power like a wino in the unattended liquor store. You make your own rules or someone makes them for you but there will always be rules or there will be blood. I'll say it again, law is for good, make sure it is good.

    I think progressivism and the left and right wing attacks on our rights is an attempt to move our rule of law out of our hands and away from it's roots in the personal liberty of Common law and establish it in the might of government by using tort law and judicial precedence. It is doomed to fail for a tree cannot tear itself from it's roots and move about unrestrained, it will fall and perish.
     
  27. Xdrag48
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    Thats how it is in Maryland too,Plus fines and tickets to pay....
    Texas might have tickets & fines too.Is it worth all that to you?

    Steve
     
  28. Salty
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    from Florida

    Interesting theory....valid points....BUT I guarantee you the tow co. that has your car in impound (in Florida) aint gonna care and aint gonna let you have your car. Possession and ownership (proof of) are two different things.

    oh, and we use laptops round here too...I typically have already looked at the registered owners arrest history, driving record and wants and warrants prior to the traffic stop. I dont ask questions I don't already know the answers too.<!-- / message --><!-- sig --><!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
     
  29. torchmann
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    I've seen on tv facial recognition like software that can read a mul***ude of plates from a crowd of vehicles and signal the officer's attention to any with problems. it can do so because plates are a standardized format to some extent so it isn't too hard for a computer to single them out
     
  30. RichG
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    ...and you still put your *** on the line walking up to the car, 'cause you don't know who's behind the wheel. I have a lot of respect for cops for this and many other reasons:)
     

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