Hudson Terraplane 1933 Sedan With a 392 HEMI

Who left the Ol' Skool gate open again?

A vintage body and engine doth not a traditional hot rod make...

 

I like it...the guy built it with what he had and could afford...sounds like traditional hot rodding to me. Might not be what some guys consider the "cookie cutter" traditional hot rod but it is still traditional hot rodding!!

Drive it and enjoy the hell out of it!!

 

Because I'm not even pretending to be building a traditional car - and I certainly never called my build traditionial. But there are a LOT of non-traditional things going on within the HAMB.

BTW, I love looking at rat rods. And especially those with tractor grilles. They are fun. They have a sense of humor. They have an interesting aesthetic. But most seem uncomfortable, are often trailer queens (go figure that) because they are just about undrivable at contemporary speeds and look unsafe, for the most part. And they are by no means traditional. They are a recent fad, not an old one, regardless of what parts they are conjured up with.

In the old days, cars like these were called beaters, just a polite way of saying they were badly maintained, beat-up old cars. But they were not created intentionally, they "got that way" after years of neglect. Gary

 

Yea the truck in you avatar looks real traditional.Bunch of keyboard gangsters.Nice radials.Oh the grill doesnt stick out like a sore thumb. The Hudson could use some smaller lights at least. It doesnt look right to me. but I dont have to drive it.

 

Then why are you knocking this so called rat rod if you like them so much?

 

I just don't think they should be considered traditional despite how many show up on the HAMB. Many folks like them, but calling them traditional is more than a stretch, me thinks.

PS...of to work on my POS... and having fun doing it. Later, Gary

 

Yup I concur... Some finish work ( a lot of it) some new wheels and wide whites and this car would make an awesome 60's show rod.

 

I only have issues with guys with PLASTIC cars telling anyone how traditional or jalopies should be done.

 

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Ah...what Axle said!

 

4 weeks in my shop after i,d get i,d use the body and driveline throw the rest away and build it like it should be but thats my side of the story if he likes it go for it.just not my taste.

 

I think the hemi looks at home there. Me personally I would lose the trunk in back. But its his car he can build it how he wants. This Hotrod Ratrod fighting bullshit is getting out of hand.

 

Wrong again. Beaters were daily driven rods and customs with the battle scars to prove it. They were anything but poorly maintained, because they had to get their owners to work and back during the week and to the rod runs on the weekend.
Lots of us owned beaters back in the 70s and 80s. They were usually driven in various stages of completion, and lacked most of the eyewash required to be a powerparker or garner any notice from the goldchaners. Yet they were always there, and the owners were proud of them, kept them safe, neat, and clean. To me, those guys were the real hotrodders of the time. I know they are still around, because I"m still one of them.

 

IMO the above comment has merit. I'd add that these cars were also generally improved wherever and whenever possible.
As for the subject car, although constructed by the owner from available parts, many of which are vintage, the build looks hasty and doesn't seem very well researched or planned.

 

I just turned 65 and have been Hot Rodding as long as some hambers and longer than most. Almost 50 years. I have been to hundreds of Rod Runs. I have always had Rods I was proud of. There were always some nicer than mine but many not as nice. I just sold one I have had for 41 years. When I first got started there were not many Rods at all. Gatlinburg was the only major Rod Run east of the Mississippi. There was no NSRA. We were a close knit group. There was no criticizm of even the worst cars. We all had something in common even if our wallets differed. Then something happened. Wantabees started coming. They could find something wrong with even the nicest cars. It made me sick. I have seen pleny of cars that I didn't particularly like but I didn't feel like it was my duty to criticize the owner in front of wannabees.

Now it is on the internet everywhere. I know these are discussion boards but I still don't feel like it is my duty to criticize someones interpretation of their Hot Rod. They have as much blood and sweat in theirs as most anyone. I will never understand how a true Hot Rodder can be so cruel to another Hot Rodder.

 

Wow, Frank, very well said. I don't know what to even add after that except for many of the things I've read are things that I really don't think I'd hear in person at an actual car show. It's amazing the "keyboard courage" that people can muster up to say when they are hundreds of miles away in front of their computers. The lack of respect over the last 3 pages is kind of alarming. I've been to several of the HAMB Drags now and the parking lot & drag strip "vibe" i get in Joplin sure feels a lot different than the "vibe" I get from some of these negative threads.

 

BECAUSE THIS IS A TRADITIONAL WEBSITE!! Axle and the Shifters know what is traditional. Just because someone put time and blood into something doesn't mean it belongs here. Take it to RatTerds.com or BigDumbHeadlights.com. Thank You.

 

Nice. Real nice.

 

Gospel brother! We didn't have alot of money at the time, but that didn't mean we just slapped shit together cause we had it laying around. Cars were built to be driven safely because our families were riding with us. Again not this clapped out crap you see now days that I wouldn't even drive in a cow pasture.

 

Lets drop this thread before the moonlighting NCRS judges return with their clip boards and ribbons.

s.

 

Although I don't care that much for it, the builder did what "i believe" is the heart and sole of hot rodding and that is using what you can get to build something. The main thing here is he built it, he likes and most important he drives it and that i respect. Congrats to him.

 

Maaaannn I really should be working right now...

But..

The problem is.... this website is dedicated to traditional hot rods and customs. It's been around for many years, and has always been focused on traditional hot rods. Not traditional hot rodding methods, if that was the case we'd be embracing homebuilt turboed fox bodied Mustangs, laptop tuning and sheet metal intakes.

This board has grown exponentially over the years, and everyone who comes in thinks they should be allowed to dilute the focus with whatever the hell they can afford or build.

I say dilute, because this website should also stand as an educational tool and an inspirational site that helps those coming into the light of traditional cars to appreciate the heritage and maybe to create a desire to preserve the integrity of the forefathers that busted their asses in the hey day. It's an appreciation for an era. It pays homage to a certain point in time. It preserves the way things were...

Whenever somebody complains of "Cookie cutter traditional rods" they are complaining that they are not focused enough to have a "correct" car. There is a heck of a gray area, but lately it's becoming less and less true to the roots. People that do not fully understand use the past a s a leaping point and then do it their own way. Somebody sees that and "does what they can do" and that goes several times, resulting in confused cars, rat rods and junk. Others see this and think "that's what the HAMB is all about." Half the crap on here would have been run off the website on rails ten years ago. This place has become too large to police, and sadly, it can no longer police itself because everyone wants to be in the club, regardless of whether they know what it is about or not.

If somebody comes on here calling a pile of unrelated parts a traditional hot rod, and the only thing vintage are the body and motor, it doesn't make a rats ass if he's doing what he likes, using what he has, doing th best that he can, it's still not a traditional hot rod. Those that whine about the Trad Police are trying to compensate for something else... if it IS right, it's right, if it is not, you can't convince anybody that it is. If you don't know what right is, it's not the board's place to change what has already been established to include the dilution of the ignorant. If you don't stamp out the weeds, the garden becomes overrun and bears no fruit.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... and you don't bring a donkey to a horse show and expect to fool anyone or to win the blue ribbon.

 

^^^Bravo! Perfectly put!^^^

 

This should be required reading for all FNG's and be a sticky! Maybe Ryan can turn this into a quiz and you have to pass before you can post!

 

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.... and you don't bring a donkey to a horse show and expect to fool anyone or to win the blue ribbon.


That is the best thing i've heard in a long time!

 

just because it is comprised of old parts, that does not mean it is traditional. find me a pic in an old hop up or don montgomery book with a car that looks anything like that. please, prove me wrong!

 

You know, I could say the same thing about most of those "shift knobs" over on that other thread that's going on right now. Some real "traditional" things mounted on top of them shifters.

 

thanks for all the vibes, the negative ones blow me away, i am the owner of this ride and cant believe what people say but then i would like to see what they have put together if anything i will give u some info on this build the radiator 1947 pontiac, motor 57 chrysler, transmission 58 chrysler, ( that i rebuilt) taillights 38 plymouth, headlights 33 studebaker, air cleaner used from friend and made new base, straight axle 38 dodge, front wheels space savers from early mopar, front tires used from friend, the trunk that has every body (almost) wierded out is a 33 packard that hides gas tank that was used in a boat used it to help hide the leafs that are also used, stearing box mopar that had to be modified, stearing shaft came from jeep cj, stearing wheel swap meet, shifter used and reversed to be able to shift old push button trans, seats from mazda miata (very comfortable) made exhaust from start to finish, rear bumper 33 terraplane, modified license plate, ignition switch 63 chevy, light switch 63 chevy, etccccccc tired of writing but to let all you know it drives like a dream ,so lets see what you drive if anything

 

You guys really don't get it do you?

I could get a bunch of old Ferrari parts and coble together a car but does that mean that I can take it to Pebble Beach and show it?

No!

Why?

Because they have a set of criteria for what is acceptable or not and it is not open for debate.

Same here.

You may not like it or agree with it but it's not your choice! There is a layed out and mostly understood set of guidelines as to what this site is about and what is acceptable. If you decide to post a car, like this one, that clearly does not fall within those guidelines expect to be told so and sometimes in not so nice terms.

You can talk about how much work you put into it and how all the parts are old and how hot rodding is about making do with what you have but that is not what this site is about or wants to be about.

Also calling guys out to show you what they are driving or have built doesn't make your car any more acceptable here. It doesn't matter what guys have built or are driving they are here to talk about Traditional Hot Rods and Customs as laid out by the guidelines this forum was based on even if they have never picked up a wrench in their lives. It is a weak attempt to justify your car and your views and it is irrelevant.