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Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Joshua Shaw, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Racer12
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    Pat O'connor from IOW site.

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  2. Racer12
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    Another from IOW site.
    Muncie, IN "velodrome" 1946

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  3. Racer12
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    test

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  5. Ebert
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    Way to go, Geno!!!!! That is AWESOME!!!!
    Eric
     
  6. Somebody really liked my pictures from the IOW site. Here is the other one I was going to post. This is Winchester Speedway 1951.Tom Cherry in the lead, Roy Prosser and Pat O'Conner in the 309
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  7. Better post this one quick. I forgot something. Sorry, won't happen again....:)
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  8. Rootie Kazoootie
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  9. Rootie Kazoootie
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  10. mac miller
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    The Miller meet, as well as several other special events at the track, is a rental and not part of the current promoter contract. It will not be adversely affected by the current promoters problems.
     
  11. Spike Ruth
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    mac;
    Thats great, glad to hear that your event is not affected. I really hope the promoter situation can be worked out; we dont need to lose another part of Americana!
     
  12. aXe33
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    Harry and Helen in their last project.

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    Ollie Johnson, Harry,
    aXe, George Benson below, click for larger image

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    I first Met Harry back in the mid sixties,I used to drive up the hill south of
    San Jose to watch Him turn his magic on His Midget also seeing his Sons and wife Helen while up there. You couldnt meet a finer family.
    Harrys Midget's spoke and spoke loud! Winning in every series He raced them in.
    Harry was allmost always with a smile and great greating just like You would have
    expected from a true brother.
    I am gonna miss our e-mailings. He has left a void that will be hard to fill but
    I trust in His upbringing of His Sons it wont take long.

    Hey Harry they just threw You a green flag and it will be one you cant lose this race in!
    RIP Harry.
    aXe
     
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  13. lrs30
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    So who all is starting off in Lawrenceburg this Friday, Is there gonna be any back row hoodlums there Friday night.I'm hoping to be there in the 31 even though the Daily Driver is more comfortable for now, there is somthing about going to the track in a hot rod (or even a stocker like mine ( .Y. ) )....
     
  14. BZNEIL
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    I am Definitely going and will be top down in the '32!! Sprinters and Hot rods!
     
  15. lrs30
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    I am trying to get mine titled so I can drive out, I need a VIN TAG MADE to pass inspection, now back tou your regular scheduled program....
     
  16. Spike Ruth
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    I saw a pic today of the Tamale Wagon Offy. The story with it said it was built by McCluskey! I had no idea that Roger was also a builder. The same story said that Kuzma built the car that Dick Atkins died in at Ascot. I would have bet money that was a Wally car. Live and learn, i guess.
     
  17. mac miller
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    I believe that Roger also built the ECCA Spl. that raced in the Arizona/New Mexico area in the early 60s.

    The #9 Atkin's car was built in Kuzma's shop by a kid named Don Ergo. Wally bought the car from Kuzma and build a couple more just like it. The #1 car that forum member, Wynn's#1, has just finished restoring, is a Wally built car equipped with parallel front torsion bars instead of the cross leaf like on the #9.

    Paul Leffler then took over the design, from Wally, and built 40+ of them... some with cross leaf front ends, some with parallel front torsion bars and even some convertibles from bars to leafs.
     
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  18. LittleFauss
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    'macmiller, 'Thanks a lot for the clarification on the #9 car. Growing up on the west coast I was a huge Dick Atkins fan. So, when my Father came home from work on a Monday back in Nov. of '66 and told us that Dick Atkins had been killed over the weekend, we were heartbroken. As has been pointed out before, the pic of Wally and Lonestar JR on pit road at IMS is actually the #9 car (with the cross leaf spring front), even though it's lettered #1.
     

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  19. Spike Ruth
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    Thanks, you guys;
    Now i better understand the deal. Of the combinstions that could be had on these cars, the only one i would have wanted was the leaf spring front end. That set up was awesome. Always worked on both dirt and tar!!
     
  20. LittleFauss
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    'I'd like to know why guys like Wally and Paul Leffler, that were big on parallel bars on the front, never built a championship dirt (100" wheelbase) car with parallel bars? Or did someone?
     

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  21. racer5c
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    That's a good question
     
  22. Jim Nise
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    I think if you look at the frame of the champ cars, there wasn't a parrallel (longitudinal) member at the right geometry for the torson bar. The 50's chassis had a large main tube with lighter cross members and the drivers prefferred the spring front. The 4 bar cars had four smaller diameter tubes running longitudenally. Thats why I believe Wally built the cross bar chassis in his champ cars, which was copied by Kuzma, Watson, ...

    IMO of course.
     
  23. Jim Dieter
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    Seems like that car Gary B dumped at Saracuse may have had a parralel with a coil helper on the rf...looking for the pic.

     
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  25. LittleFauss
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    'Jim Dieter, 'Here are a couple of pics of Gary's car. You can see that they changed from a cross torsion bar to a parallel bar to assist the coils on the front end. The second one is the actual car at Syracuse. I think what a few builders did was use an actual torsion bar as a anti-roll or sway bar. I know Don Edmunds built a coil-over front midget for Jack London that utilized a parallel mounted torsion bar to act as a 'helper' bar, as he referred to it. What I liked about Wally and Leffler is, it seems they tried mounting parallel bars both above the front axle and below the front axle. racer5c's uncle, Red at LTC and the northern cal builer, George Benson were both very successful builders and they always mounted the bars below the front axle. 'Perhaps the experts can chime in and expand.
     

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  26. mac miller
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    Not sure I know the answer to your question but I do know that the chassis dynamic is different with parallel torsion and cross torsion. With parallel, all of the spring transfer to the chassis stays on the same side, but with cross torsion the spring load is transfered to the opposite side of the chassis. Not sure that it is better or worse but it is definitely different and needs to be understood when setting the chassis.
    Several of the early fifties Indy cars used parallel torsion including the Ballanger #99 and the 1950 Parsons winner.
     
  27. BZNEIL
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    Anybody have a pic of Halibrand midget shifter rear that shows the cable attached? I am missing the piece that goes between the shifter and the cable end. I think I know how it goes, bit would like to see one before I make it.
    Thanks,
     
  28. Bryan Clauson Racing will be hosting an open house on Monday July 13th from 3pm – 8pm. We would like to invite all fans and racers who are in town for Indiana Sprint Week to stop by and visit the shop. We will be Barbequing and will have the DAK Sprint car simulators in the house to test your skills. We will also have a corn hole tourney as well as a jump house for the kids. If you are looking for a way to kill some time between the Kokomo event and the North Vernon USAC Midget show be sure to stop by. Drivers will be available for autographs and pictures.

    Drivers:
    Bryan Clauson – 2009 USAC Midget Week Champion
    Ryan Kaplan – Former Western States USAC Champion
    Kyle Robbins – Fresh off his first Feature Win at Gas City Speedway

    Shop Address:
    15320 Endeavor Drive 900
    Noblesville, IN 46060

    For more information or to just shoot us an email to let us know you are coming please send us an email @ bryanclausonracing@yahoo.com <!-- / message --><!-- edit note -->
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    This is from IOW site. We recieved word today that the always competitive racer Jimmy Sills will be stopping by. Should be lots of bench racing and good stories.
    I'll even cook you a hot dog.....
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  29. Hey Mac, here is a cross torsion bar set up on the re-creation of the Sumar Streamliner.
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  30. racer5c
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    ever look at an LTC Midget?
     

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