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Hot Rods How to steal a car "legally"?? (warning)

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by crackerass54, Aug 1, 2009.

  1. crackerass54
    Joined: Jun 1, 2009
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    crackerass54
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    from dallas

    This is a long story with a fairly good ending, just wanted to give everyone a heads up and maybe to educate a little (lord knows I was).

    This happened a few weeks ago and my attorney said not to say anything, but he gave me the go ahead so here I go.

    I was leaving work the other morning and got pulled over. the officer found a warrant on me for an old inspection sticker ticket I forgot to pay.(I remembered real quick though). So my 54 got towed, to start things off the guy completely destroyed my pipes and my license plate putting my car on the wrecker.(He was treating the car so bad the officer said something to him about it). I get out of jail and the next morning I call to see how much it will be to get my car out and the guy tells me that it going to be $425 to get my car out that day, but he tells me that there is a hold on my car."A hold on my car? for what?" he says he can't find the VIN plate. I told him it's on the pillar, he says he'll go look again. He calls back hours later and says he can't find it. I ask him who has the car on hold and he tells me Hutchin's task force. He gives me an officers number so I call. the officer tells me that there is a hold on the car and they are waiting for someone from austin to come look at it because there is no VIN tag, he says it looks like someone took it off.( it was there when they picked up the car and will be there when I pick it up untouched). He tells me that he will call me when they release my car. Well I wait for a few days, No call. I call still a hold, this goes on for about a week, with me calling back and forth the police and the tow company, they tell me they are waiting on this and that BLAH BLAH. Well I call the police station because I did'nt have the officers number with me at the time, and mysteriously no one at the police station could find a hold on my car. Well I call the tow company and tell them there is no hold on the car, I told him that I called the police station and talked to somone other than the officer that I was given the number to, You could almost hear him **** a brick over the phone and he says he will call me back to confirm. Now I feel something is going on so I call my lawyer, before the lawyer calls the tow company I do, the bill is over $1,200 dollars(holy ****!!). Well the lawyer sorted it all out and the tow company and an officer apperently have been running a scam. When the tow company sees something they want they do this hopping that after a week or two you won't be able to afford to get your car out of the pound and it's there's, somewhat legally. So here is some info that I got and maybe it will help out. If your vehicle is towed for the state i.e. your arrested, they can only charge you there hookup fee, by the mile, and $21 dollars a day storage. if they say there is a hold on your car they have to have the paperwork in your hand in 48 hours or they have to release your car. these people are going to be investegated more. My lawyer said he was told by austin that this is happening more and more. So if your car is towed don't take anything anyone says for granted, If I would'nt have left that officers number at home I may not have my car right now. Now the officer that arrested me was a dallas county police officer and he was only doing his job and was very pollite I might add. It was the tow company were this was started. The tow company is Pariskas and it's a fairly big company. If you want anymore info PM me and I'll give you all the info I have. I hope that you don't get stuffed like I did!!!


    P.S. it took less than $300 to get my car out after two weeks.
     
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  2. DMC
    Joined: Sep 23, 2007
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    DMC
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    from SC

    I'm glad this finally worked out for you. I've found that us rodders have to be on the up and up on everything because there are vultures like you describe that are just waiting to take advantage of a situation. I try my best not to draw any attention to myself by doing stupid stuff or not having anything on the car that does not work as it is suppose too. I'm glad you finally got it back.
     
  3. manyolcars
    Joined: Mar 30, 2001
    Posts: 9,608

    manyolcars

    There is another scam going on in Sulfur Louisiana to 'legally' steal your car.
    This one has been going on for years and has been reported in Readers Digest, has been on Good Morning America and other TV shows.
    The police stop cars with out of state license plates, then reach under the seat and pull out a bag of marijuana!
    (Yes, there was no marijuana in your car but they 'find' it.)
    Then they impound your car and since you are from out of state and cant afford to miss work and cant afford to hire lawyers a to fight it, the police keep your car.
    Sulfur is a very small town with a large fancy courthouse paid for by inpounded out of state car confi****ions

    From the Readers Digest:

    GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT

    ***et Forfeiture Laws Were Meant To Combat Drug Crimes.

    Instead They Have Become A Means To Trample Your Rights

    FIVE DAYS before Christmas 1995, Cheryl Sanders of Long Beach, Calif., was driving on Interstate 10 in Sulphur, La., when she was stopped by three police officers. They told her she had been speeding. But instead of giving Sanders a ticket, they handcuffed her and took her to a local jail, where she was made to disrobe and submit to a search. No drugs were found on her or in her car, nor did she have a criminal record.

    "You're free to go now," a policeman told Sanders. "But we're keeping your car."

    Under Louisiana's civil ***et forfeiture law in 1995, police could seize vehicles on little more than su****ion that the owner was a drug dealer. Sulphur police said that the trunk of Sanders's Lincoln Town Car contained a 2 1/2-inch-deep compartment under a false bottom capable of concealing narcotics.

    Sanders, who had purchased the car used only six months earlier, didn't know what they were talking about. She hired an attorney, and after seven months a judge ruled that the city had to return her property since the police seizure lacked probable cause. By then she had to sell the car to pay her legal bills.

    "They stole my car," Sanders complains. "It was highway robbery."

    Sanders is one of countless citizens who feel the same way about a series of controversial laws enacted as part of the war on drugs. In 1984 Congress authorized federal law enforcement agencies to seize any property purchased with drug money or used to facilitate the drug trade.

    Many states then enacted their own versions of the statute to allow local prosecutors and police agencies to grab a person's money or property based on the belief that a drug connection is more probable than not. Critics charge that these laws allow the seizure of ***ets on virtually anything more than mere su****ion of a link.

    In criminal law you're presumed innocent until proven guilty. But under most civil ***et-forfeiture statutes the burden of proof falls on individuals to prove in court that their property is free of any involvement with illegal drug activity. Even to challenge a seizure under federal law, the owner must post a bond of ten percent of the property's value or $5000, whichever is less.
     
  4. Comet
    Joined: Dec 1, 2004
    Posts: 2,571

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    Wow, hard to believe this **** happens in America. Truly ****ed up.
     
  5. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
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    Truckedup
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    The main point of the first post in this tread is the warrant for the unpaid summons.That fact set up this whole mess.It's all to easy to forget about unpaid fines as cracker***54 mentions.Any of us can get into the same jam,make sure don't let unpaid tickets turn into a big h***le later on.
     
  6. BUSTEDKNUCKLE
    Joined: Mar 31, 2007
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    What he said..........
     
  7. Curious Question: Are there any lawyers on here who can shed light to the direction these cases are able to happen once, but multiple times? How in this country where men and women fight and die for our rights everyday do we allow these actions to repeat themselves?? I ask you, stand up and voice your opinion!
     
  8. KUZTOM
    Joined: May 6, 2008
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    YOU go to jail for that ?:confused:
     
  9. BISHOP
    Joined: Jul 16, 2006
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    Nope.........You would not believe what Ive personally been through growing up in a small Texas town. Crooked cops, Judges, lawyers, Ive seen it all. Ive been thrown in jail for crimes never committed by anyone, and found guilty. My brother was thrown in jail for ***isting a suicide, where no one even got hurt. The list is long, and truly wacko. Texas law, its made up as you go.
     
  10. Little Wing
    Joined: Nov 25, 2005
    Posts: 7,565

    Little Wing
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    from Northeast

    Not just the South,, Jersey does it too as well as many other states. There are many blurred lines when it comes to "su****ion" The Police can legally Lie to you..and its also a double edged sword. All those who complain "why are'nt you doing something " Yet what the Police need by "law" to sometimes do there job ,people get all uptight.. The bottom line is the % of Bad Cops etc who take advantage ,,only proving that all systems have there corruption
     
  11. Ruiner
    Joined: May 17, 2004
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    I'll stick to living in my podunk rural MN town...I moved here a month ago and already know the 2 cops by name and they seem like good folk...MN Nice is just fine with me...
     
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  12. eightbanger
    Joined: Feb 17, 2007
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    Thats a good way to get your tow company burned to the ground.
     
  13. Vorhese
    Joined: May 26, 2004
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    So please tell me something is going to happen to that cop and towing company.
     
  14. jimn3d
    Joined: Dec 16, 2008
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    Here's another one for you Hamb'ers. I moved to Alabama and started dating a girl. I made the mistake of letting her move in. I gave her a key to my apartment. One month later I told her I was done. She liberated my apartment of two flat screen tv's and a car. I called the Alabama police and was told that there was nothing they could do! It was a domestic thing and I would have to take her to court! So good by car and household stuff! Luckily I threatened her with police action and would take her to court if necessary and she returned the car minus my household stuff. WTF? Anyway lesson learned here..
     
  15. RAY With
    Joined: Mar 15, 2009
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    Texas has its share of corrupt cops and wrecker drivers but the grand prize goes to our neighbors on the East side. Louisiana takes the grand prize for corruption, crooked cops,lawers and Judges. If you screw up over there your in deep **** without a life vest. They can take your money,car,truck or any thing else you may have that they may want. Never travel through that state on I-10 with over $10.00 bucks in your pocket because they feel that it has to be drug money which there laws makes it possible for them to take all your possessions. The crooked cops in Texas look good compared to these guys.
     
  16. 35ratbstr
    Joined: Feb 18, 2006
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    35ratbstr
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    from Colorado

    Sounds like a case for Alex Jones. :eek:!!!!!

    Your probably going to see alot more of that coming down the pike with our current leaders in Washington.

    Your situation was a local scam but the "Control" factor sneaking up on all of us!
     
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  17. bonesy
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    Most tow companies are bottom feeders.
     
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  18. bonesy
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    What sad, is when I read your ***le How to steal a car "legally"?? (warning) I knew it was going to have something to do with a tow company. Sad.
     
  19. 48fordnut
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    It has been said if you are any sort of Gov official in Lousiana, You are Crooked. I can beleive it.
     
  20. HOTRODPRIMER
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    So how much was the original inspection ticket you forgot to pay? :confused: HRP
     
  21. zman
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    Uh... ********, it's business as usual, just like it has been... no difference between these and the last guys... this **** has been going on for a long while... I remember when these laws starting becoming really prevalent. When they started the "War on Drugs", oh yeah during that Regan guys administration...
     
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  22. belair
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    YEAH-we're big on the 2nd ammendment, dude.
     
  23. Yeah, and they're backed up by local judges. I've had several business ***ts. get totally screwed unless paid in CASH in Louisiana. They operate under "Napoleonic Law" which means that any judge can decide even if a check is honorable out of state.
     
  24. bobss396
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    I'll buy the marshmallows and maybe we can do a round of s'mores. But wait a few months until the uproar dies down.

    Bob
     
  25. T-Time
    Joined: Jan 5, 2007
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    What you are talking about is called the Comprehensive Crime Control Act (there's that word "control", again), enacted in 1984. The blame for this law belongs to the Democrats that controlled (and, again) Congress, not the Reagan administration.
     
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  26. T-Time
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    It is based on a U.S. Federal (national) law. It is limited in no way to the Southern U.S. Almost all, if not all, States have a similar law. It has been ruled Cons***utional by the U.S. Supreme Court, when the court was dominanated by a majority of liberal judges.
     
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  27. Kail
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    damn, and even if you do get it back the legal fees will **** you
     
  28. ems customer service
    Joined: Nov 15, 2006
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    if a police officer does something illegal while preforming hisjob like this scam you have the ability to sue the officer direclty and the city he works for, you could get real big money, wehad this happen here in cleveland were the police tried to ptu one towing company out of busineess so the one towing company could make all the money.

    well they guy sued and got 5 million from the city cause they could not control the rougue police officers,

    but you must go to a real laywer that can do federal civil rights law, do not use the local store front laywer
     
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  29. X426X
    Joined: Jul 22, 2009
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    Its a ****in shame that law enforcement's priority in this country has degenerated into mostly revenue collection and property siezure. It's a ****ed up situation now a days, but what can you do? Who are gonna call, the state police? the FBI??? Ha ha!

    This ordeal with johnie law and his pals cost almost $2,000.00 plus months of frustration, three days off work, etc, etc:
    http://66.154.44.164/forum/showthread.php?t=368567&page=6&highlight=stolen
    :cool:
     
  30. ironandsteele
    Joined: Apr 25, 2006
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    **** man. ****ing tow companies.
     

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