you ever get so pissed when trying to sell something?

The other side of the coin. I was just browsing craigslist and a guy had two 46 ford coupes one cherry for $4K needing final assembly and the other a chopped top (stick welded rough) for $1K no motor or tranny. I called and looked it over offered to buy the chopped coupe for $1K (his price) and he said he was waiting for a guy to come back with some money. I gave him my number and told him to call anytime. One week later he called I went back with the cash and listened to all the stories of no shows and $100. dollar offers. The coupes were his fathers and he had passed away ten years before and wasn't into the old stuff. He also had a sweet 33 3 window with a decked out flattie that was not for sale but he did show me all the great parts and pieces. He is keeping my number in case he decides to sell it he liked doing buisness with me.

 

buying and selling shit is like playing poker, you're good at it, or you aint.

i really dont take any offense by a clowns offer, just try not to waste too much time with them. bottom line when you sell something you gotta deal with the b/s.

also if your pos is worth what you ask for it, some one is gonna buy it. if not, they are gonna offer ya what its worth.

old saying is, "its worth what somebody will pay for it" and nothing more.

i usually get what i want for stuff, and almost always buy for what i wanna spend. sometimes something is real desireable, you better pay if you want it.
and if you got something that really is a pos, let it go and move on.

generally the bigger pos your item is , the more clowns you're gonna see. the real buyers are out looking at the good stuff.


skull

 

Exactly what I was thinking. Or, you could be like Eva Gabor on Green Acres, who raised the price each time she was offered less!

 

I don't get to mad anymore...some time you can get some great dumbass storys from clowns, had a boat on CL for $500. guy call from Houston (6 + hours away) ask if I thought he could pull it home with his 87 Regal with a slipping trans...I told him hell yeah come get it.

Had some Rottie pups for sale for $350-$475, guy comes driving a BMW and looking at my house like I am a POS then wants a pup and ask how much, I tell him $475. later a kid about 9 comes with his parents and falls in love with one and I sale it for $250

 

I don't even wanna get started . but......
most aggravating are the guys who prattle on about needing your number so they can talk to you and then never call.. or when they do they as questions already clearly stated in the ad posting... then they ask for a meeting time and don't show up... I hate the flakes most of all

 

Original poster, what year truck and how many miles?

There is a risk in putting too much money into something you plan to sell, get too deep and you can't recover your funds.

 

I hear you on that. what I do if it is something I can load in the truck I tell them to meet me in the walmart parking lot and call when they get there and wait for me and I continue doing what ever I am doing

 

Im going thru this right now. Im selling a 97 Cobra, Cherry Car with 60K miles Documented. I had a guy look at it, thought he was serious, then the guy flashed $2K in 20's....I said no, he said he needs to speak with the wife....his wife called later that evening and offered $$2.5K....."Click"

 

Truck is a 68 f100swb project..I bought it and found so many things that werent right I ended up stripping it completely down ,got a new frame, had it blasted and painted, sanded down the cab,replaced the floors, cab corners,had it primed inside and out, then bought a ton of new parts for it so I could put it all back together..and paint..came across my 50 ford and got side tracked.. now instead of sitting there and letting it rust, I figured Id sell it to someone that would build themself a truck..its not so much the money..I must have at least 4grand in it.. I figured I was more then reasonable selling it at 1500,which is less then the new parts that are still in the boxes.. I'm pretty upfront about it..telling anyone that calls what it is..what it will need..and what I have for it.. its not that I really need to sell it.. its just, I basically lost interest in the truck since I got my 50 and the truck is just going to sit there..

 

I just had a really good experience selling the '62 Impala on ebay to a woman in KS who bought it for her husband. He's coming home from Iraq in a couple of weeks, they're going to come here, pick up the car and have a little vacation taking the thing home. They're happy. I'm happy. Everybody wins sometimes.

Just thought I'd throw in a happy story for all the people bitching and carping about how bad ebay sucks and nobody is buying anything. Ain't neccesarily so...

 

I call them guys who ride the "beback" bus. you know, "I'll be back when I get paid/when I get my insurance check/when my dad gets home/after I go to dinner". Only problem with the beback bus is that it never comes back.

I had a guy email me out if the blue about my car in the classifieds. His only message: "I could see that price if it were a 2 door". I emailed back and asked which two doors he wanted me to weld up for him?

My favorite though are the lowballers lowballer, then they get all butt hurt about it like they were doing you a favor and why wouldnt you take their insane low cash offer. I tell them "sorry, I didnt say yours was my only offer, it was just the lowest"

economy is kicking it right now, the population with the most money allocated for "stuff" is also the population with the highest unemployment. Two tears in a bucket, I will hold onto my stuff as long as it takes.

 

Thank you.

 

I had to check the first post to see what the tread was about. With all the talk of asses, clowns, idiots, bums, and flakes, I thought we were talking about dreamers selling golden silk sows ears(not really)
The cost of a new car part is a portion of intrinsic value greater than the material commodity the part is made from containing the design and manufacture and it's 100% service life. The cost of transporting, warehousing, sales, marketing, warranty, product liability insurance etc are included in the retail purchase price and like it or not it is the primary retail customer who purchases the item new consumes who these costs when he sells or uses the item as he cannot convey the benefit of anything but an alleged 100% service life backed by nothing to anyone who may buy it from him. And most everyone knows that and wouldn't think of paying the joe on the street retail because they'd get laughed at if they wern't already feeling like a chump for buying something used for more than half the cost of new.
The individual seller is not established and his word is not as good as the word of an established retailer.
Then there's the guys who think something goes up in value anytime they go out and look at it. Or they think if a business (again that warehoused, transported, pulled inventoried and had the part waiting and ready for sale with warrantee at any time needed) sells a used part for X.00$ then that's what it's worth.
Everyone thinks they are a chip foose but look at it from the other side...
...I'm thinking of buying this_______ and I don't want to pay the seller more than 3/4 of what they paid for the new stuff still in boxes and more than half of new for new parts installed (this means that they are used...zero miles but still used) I don't particularly care for the work they did on it and most anything they did I'd have to take back to zero and do it right (that just means my way regardless of how good I am or am not).
An exception to this is original which is more appealing even when in bad shape than following after billybob and having to bring everything up to manufacturer's standards or better.
and then there's the noob factor, a noob buyer can't see how easy something he has never done is to do he can only see it as an obstacle. The better your skills the more valuable everything not perfect becomes.

 

Is the truck running?

 

Yeah, but you wouldn't say it to his face if you'd see the size of this guy. He's one of my best friends, and a hard working family man, but I hate going anywhere with him cause you never know what he'll do.
Beside, he grew up in the family junkyard, so scrapping cars is in his blood, as frustrating as that can be to watch for the rest of us.

 

i would, and i dont care HOW large he is. destroying something like that just to spite someone is... fuck witted. now, saying you'll do it, just to let yourself vent is one thing... doing it, quite another

 

They don't bother me anymore. I can see where they're coming from. someone is a skeptic about an engine I say buy me the the gaskets up front and I'll pull it down for your inspection, check the compression if you want to, blah blah blah.
when they start picking it apart I walk away saying I'll be over here if you have any questions.
When they offer a price I Can't accept, I ask them where'd they come up with that offer and I defend my price because you know they're thinking where'd I come up with my price.
When they say "I can get em all day long for x$ I say cool go get me some and Ill pay you buck and a quarter on the dollar for them, I'd love to find some that cheap and they look at you like your crazy and I say I'm not joking go get me some and I'll make you some money.
If someone really wants something and can't afford it I don't want to shut them out. I'd rather leave the option open for them to save up a couple more paychecks but then again if I want or need to sell it now they are there to offer me a service and I may have to discount my price to expedite the sale.
I just bought a 460 4speed setup. Everything to change my 77 f150 over from a c6 to a 4speed for $100. The guy had spent 1800 having the tranny and t-case rebuilt 4k miles prior but the truck was gone and it was a stumbling stone in his way. he advertised it for 150 bucks. I went to look at it when I was broke and told him I liked it but I doubt I could come up with $40 right now(all I had in my pocket). He gaved me the stinkeye and before he could MF me I added that I'm making my housepayment this and next week but if it didn't sell in a couple weeks I could come up with about $100. Now this gives him an open benchmark to go from, He knows he can get $100 in 2 weeks solid and if he want's to wait longer he might be able to talk me up on the price. I would have gone $200. It's worth more, I'd have to buy a $500-$800 parts truck and junk it to get all that stuff but times being tight I set $200 as my limit or wait untill I was in better finances and risk paying more. I checked back with him in a couple weeks and he let me have it for $100 to have it gone. that's what it was worth at that time to all parties involved $40-$200 and the negotiations process brought a deal at $100.
I just bought a 75 f100 4x4 chassis for $100. they wanted $350. I offered $50 for scrap tonnage... 20% more than the junkyard was paying. they said my offer was unreasonable I said "I thought it was entirely reasonable being that I was at that time unemployed and would only get $100 out of the 9" rear after taking a few things for my truck but admitedly unacceptible since you just didn't like it so sell me...sell it. if you really need it gone and there's nobody else wanting it then shoot me a price you think I might consider under the circumstances" and they offered it at $100.
I'm not soft, I'm not afraid to talk to people. i'm not an ass either I try to respect people. business is conflict and people are still people. I'ts people that are valuable not stuff and dealing with them is just a part of life. if you love people, you'll love the conflict and be good at the deal and if you hate people or think your better than they are you'll really suck at dealing with them. Everytime you point there's one finger at them and three back at you (your thumbs just a short fat dummy and don't know what it's doing) If your bill Clinton you send the thumb at your enemies and have 4 fingers pointed back at you, what's up with that?

 

Well, I agree, and I can sort of talk to him sometimes about things, but I'd REALLY like to be there when you tell him he's "fuck witted" to his face, after all, it was HIS car. But if you want to tell him, I'll arrange a meeting, let me know when and where. Oh boy, this is gonna be fun!!!

 

this is exacly what YOU customers do to car sales people every day?!?!?!?!?!? every three years you go buy a new Toyota for the Mrs. and lie, cheat, and steal you way to save a couple hundred bucks???

tell me im wrong? tell me you dont do this?? you CANT!!!! and do you know why you cant?? cause we do this 6 days a week and its always the same routine. this is what yall do everytime, and the worst part is your proad of yourself for doing it??? heres what yall do.....

1. go on the internet to see what "invoice" is?? what does that matter? it has a suggested retail price on the sticker!!! why not pay that?? do you argue the price at walmart?? we dont expect that anyway....
2. then go to the dealer and treat the person, thats right...we are people, like shit. like we are theives. like we are dishonest(while you are the dishonest one in this transaction)! this is only true till we make a deal, then yall change your moods and be nice. most of you anyway.
3. drive 3 different cars on a saturday. our day to SELL, nnot SHOW cars, speciallt when you dont have you wife with you to buy if u didnt do this???
4. get all the numbers...price/trade/interest/rebates/payments
5. take those numbers to the next dealer and ask for their price/trade/interest/rebates/payments
6. then....you take those numbers to yet ANOTHER dealer and ask for price/trade/interest/rebates/payments again!?!?
7. then you go to whoever gave you the best price and start arguing over the price!?!?!

now, none of the 3 dealers had that much different of a price. $500.00 either way, for a car?? 500 bucks and you just sell the guy out trying to feed his family?? for 500 bucks on a $30,000.00 car??? doesnt that seem rude? do you put any dollar amount on the service you get from 100% commision salesperson??
now...you and i both know...there is no special deal out there. there is a fair deal...a honest deal(by YOU and the salesman), but you didnt save thousands. we know that. its impossible. we know you are lying when you say you did. we know...cause we do this 6 days a week!?!?!? plus we know what our compitition is willing to do. we know their pricing structure. just like you would if you owned a dealership or where a salesperson. plus, all dealers form Washinton to the Florida Keys pay the same for new cars. there is no special deal maker somewhere. some mad man huffing glue who wants to sell cars at a loss?!?! and your not that good of a negotiator to make a dealer lose money. seriously?!? for real? think sir. just think about it.
now...the poor soul, who is a PERSON, you have been cheating/stealing from/lying to...only gets paid $200.00+/- total to sell a car. there are bonus's. but it doesnt pay BIG money. $40k a year average in a good sized city. but we are ok with that....its the lies YOU customers tell, the lack of loyalty, and the abuse that we hate. and for what??? $500 bucks of saving on a $30,000.00 purchase? come on cheapo?!?!
cheap ass customer is the reason that i hate people. almost all customers...there are a few who do business fair!!!
Customers buying/shopping for cars should treat the dealer and/or sales person as good and as fair as they would like to be treated. that would be a nice change!!!
oh,...profit? its not a dirty word. im glad the world is in the state that its in right now so you customers can learn what the salesperson that you buy your next car goes through. treat them fair. please!!
one more thing....why is it people say they make more then they make a year, payed more then they did for their house then they did,..... but say they paid less then they did for their cars??? weird. yall think your so slick and smart. like you beat the dealer. my question to you is...why would you want to beat the dealer in the first place?? oh, that $500 bucks? lol.

welcome to our world!!! hahaha....becarefull how we treat others....we may end up getting treated the same in the future. case and point!

 

Geeze, you sound like someone I'd buy a car from. And if there aren't any great deals out there, then why are there so many dealers on my tv telling me there are?

 

you need to change jobs

 

Watch yourself with those "beback" folks, not too long ago a fellow had a couple of dudes out to look at his car he had for sale. They said they'd come back with the money, he told them to come back that evening, then he took his wife to dinner. When they got home the car, all his tools, and everything of value was gone. I NEVER let someone come to my house to look at stuff, and if I do it's in the driveway with the garage door closed. People seem real nice but if you don't know them personally, well then, it's not personal, right?

...and you think it's hard to sell stuff? I've given stuff away on the "List" and have had people write and ask some of the dumbest shit. I had one lady ask me if I would haul something she wanted to get for free from me to Lynnwood (about 120 miles) because she didn't have a big enough car. I told her very politely and calmly, "I may be nice, but I'm not easy." People are asses, plain and simple.

 

sorry, car salesmen are fair game.............

 

Selling something for what its worth and getting lowballed sucks. But the flip side, trying to buy, as I have all summer been doing, is sometimes worse. Ive been looking for an OT newer truck to replace my crappy 91 ranger as my daily driver til I get my 54 on the road again. There's two things Ive noticed in sellers this summer. 1. They have a nice truck that books at around 4500, I offer 4500, they are asking 7000. They then proceed to tell me they can take no less than 6000. Why? Because a year ago they went to a dealer and got ripped off (as most do) and need 6000 to pay off their loan. Well, Im very sorry, and I certainly can empathize, but Im not going to pay a dime more than what your car is worth, and therefore, I am not going to pay off your loan. 2. Sellers believe that since they just had to drop 2000 to replace their blown motor and/or trans that the truck is worth book value, plus the 2000 they just dropped. Im sorry, but the value of the vehicle is determined and placed into a condition category based on a running motor. Therefore, your now fully operational vehicle does not include the cost you just put in to make it woth a certain value. Apparently, quite a few sellers out there dont realize that the economy is effecting the buyers as well.

 

I used to only assume all car salesmen were tweaks; now I'm sure.

 

If you want to size up the overall intelligence of society...then get into the car business.

Buying and selling cars is one of the greatest enjoyments in life (if your twisted that way) I grew up around it (dad was a note dealer and I basicly grew up on a used car lot in S. Dallas,...you wannna talk about stories?????... nothing , and I mean NOTHING suprises me anymore). People are amazed by some of the things I've seen, just normal stuff to me.

You can't get upset about what people say or offer.... hey at least they are offering something! If you don't like say no. I look at it like this.. if I offer them something for it then either they will take it, or make a counter offer, and if not thats fine too...there is always another car, so I will move on, if you do, you don't need to be trying to sell a car to the "general public"...go to a dealer and be done w/it.

The flipside to this is you should try and buy cars from the "general public", that is sometimes much harder than selling.

Now as for just fucking dumb people....I will never understand why they will ask, "Can I drive it home?", when you state in the ad will not run and drive and include a picture of under the hood and clearly there is no engine!!! Happens all of the time.....

 

I had a dumb f*ck call me to pinstripe his guitar. He told me he had no money but I was open to trades. He tells me that he has a beautiful freestyle bike that he would like to trade. Only thing is, it's in the pawn shop.

Betcha can't guess where his guitar was... Yep, in the pawn shop too.

 

Sounds like what the dealers do to their techs when they need a raise to feed their family. What goes around comes around.

 

I had an extra set of very rare 56 Buick factory air compressor brakets so I put them up for sale at $40 on a Buick site figuring I'd help somebody out that wanted to use them and the $40 would keep somebody from just getting them cause they were free and not cause they needed them. Some asshole gets on the site and tells everone I'm way to high but another guy jumps on them and says he'll send a check the next day then the asshole sends me a check for $100 to try and buy them out from under the first guy. Sending the asshole his check back was the best feeling I'd had in a long time, insuted me that I was a rip off and the insulted me that I was a liar to the first guy I'd prommise the parts to!