model a fuel tank placement?

i havnt gotten to this point to my car, but it still has crossed my mind.

can people show me some pics of where they stuck there gas tanks on there model A's?

i know some people stick it in the rear, out in the back seat or under the drivers seat.
just trying to get some solid ideas....i kinda what to buy a standard aluminum gas tank from ebay, so i dont have to go pay for a custom made one. and i dont want a visible tank, i seen some attached to the drivers rear seat that is visible, but still looks good.

so just post a pic, size,dimensions, or make if you took it off another car, of your tank...thanks.

 

I plan to fold a tank out of a single piece of metal, add ends and position it as a divider between the trunk and seat of my 31 coupe.
About 8" at the bottom and maybe 4" at the top, full width, it will hold a lot of gas.
Thats the safest place to put it in case of a wreck and for weight distribution

 

Are you talking about a Sedan, Coupe or a Roadster?

I have a Tudor Sedan and built a tank in the shape of the back seat, then built an enclosure to cover it up. I can post information if you are interested.

John

 

Ya John Do It,,i wanna see it...

 

I built mine using 14 gauge sheet metal. One piece bent in the shape I needed for the bottom, front, and back ( 10" deep on the bottom 14" high for the back and angled to the top in front, 34" long. It is angled from the 10" bottom to the 5" top to fit behind the seat. I used 3/16 plate for the top so I could drill and tap for the sender and filler neck. The top is welded on and so are the ends. Fits perfect and is about 14 1/2 gallons. The filler is in the middle of the rear deck in front of the trunk. Mine's a 29 Roadster. Total cost was $75.00 for the tank material and I bought a marine filler neck with cap for $18.00. And $24.00 for a quart of sealer. Don't forget the sealer to inhibit rust.

 

I had mine made of SS, a little more expensive but you never have to worry about rust.
It is 36" long, 12" wide at the bottom, 13" high, and tappered to 10" wide on top. It should hold about 18.3 gallons when full.
The other thing, how you are going to fill it..............and for me opening the trunk/rumble lid
everytime was not an option, so I did something a little different.
If you have a coupe, make sure to put in a solid barrier between the tank and your p***anger compartment.

IMHO

 

I'm sure your aware of the saddle tanks that mount under the splash aprons on full fendered cars. Not any help if your running fenderless. I remember when hot rod Model A's could still run fenders, too bad as there were some *****in ones out there.

Frank

 

I got a fresh water holding tank from a boat. Its alluminum. It fits perfectly.
I found it at a s**** metal place. I paid $60.00 its a good heavy one with all the nec***ary holes in it allready

 

I plan on running the fenders, but those saddle tanks are a bummer.
they can be a ***** to fill, hold between the two of them maybe 14 gallons?
need crossover or valving. They take up some room that could be used for exhaust in my case. or not
I guess they have their application.
I am thinking of running mine behind the rear seat, with a bulk head, so no fuel or the tank is inside the car, (if ruptured it will pour out of the back of the car not into it.)


the stainless idea is nice.

 

Still Is !!! Allways will be !!!!

 

ima be running the fenders, but still im not really digging the saddle tanks....i have a 31 coup, but im still interested in johns idea

still looking for some more pics,

 

i like your the best so far...easy and accessible. but i want a functional rumble seat, i might have to use a thinner, but taller tank to help.

 

What ever you do, the top of the tank should be lower than the bottom of the carb bowl or it can, and some day will, siphon gas into the engine the same way a cowl tank can and will if the pet**** isn't turned off religiously.

 

i didnt know that...thanks,

 

Has anyone thought about fuel cells?

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Steel-Can-Fuel-Cells,447.html

 

In my '29 Coupe w/Rumble Seat, I put my fuel tank behind the seat (after moving the seat back). It's in the pictures wrapped in plastic.
I had always intended to use the rumble seat as a trunk, so the location of the gas tank worked out perfect for me.

-Jeremy

 

If going behind seat tanks sells one .Its called u9 or something like that at 250.00 Call them i've never saw that listed .Also check with your states laws about gas tanks .Mine had to be open at the bottom and two firewalls ,one on each side of tank and exposed at the bottom . This is where im at now .Still building battery box next to gas tank. I enclosed the whole tank. Gas tank work comes next gotta move everything.

 

My friend Gary Carter used a "Tanks" universal.

 

I have a similar tank to this patiently waiting in the rafters to use in my coupe... and if you like the tank... wait until you see the rest of his car...

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172827

 

I also used a Tanks universal tank which fits nicely ahead of the A's rear crossmember bump in the "trunk" area. No real safe place in an A for the tank,but I'd be really nervous having it right behind my seats. I would also strongly recommend:
1.Check your state DMV laws about where the gas tank is allowed to be.
2. Make absolutely certain you have a roll-over vent included in the top of your tank (Yogi's sells a nice one). Last thing you want if your car is no longer vertical in its original position is gasoline running out the vent.

 

i like the universal fuel tank. but i was thinking about running it with a functional rumble seat.

 

Am I missing something? I've built 5 model A's and used the original tank everytime with no problems.......And I didn't have to hide it anywhere.....

 

Not sure what you guys think of this but we think it looks prety good. lots of ground clearance & non model A/non deuce guys have no idea it does not belong there. We have the frame horn covers & I have to slice & dice them over the winter to make them fit.

 

Toner283,

I think your tank looks great and I have seen it done on Model A 2drs.

But.................with a quickchange it just doesn't work, you have to cut the tank and most of the tank hides the quickchange....................for my car anyway.

IMHO

 

ya, but it holds i think only 9 gallons....ima be running a V8, which would mean alot of trips to the gas station.
maybe a 17 or 16 gallon tank would be the best.

 

Wont work for the hungry beast i have under the hood, and there is also going to be a hole cut in the front of mine to sport a 56 olds cluster, and a few other instruments., fuse box, wiring,glove box with hiden radio...(shhhhh).so there ya go.

not to mention. I dont want 9 or 10 gallons of fuel over my lap, and I would rather have the weight of my fuel over my rear tires for added traction and my tank will be bulk headed so if in the event of a rear collition and or if the fuel tank becomes breached, the fuel will run out of the Cabin of the vehicle rather than into it..

I value my safety and my Kid and Wife too..
so im not going to go there and take that chance..
maybe they were fine..maybe henry never had any problems? (I'll bet there were some ugly deaths in these cars due to fires)
but Im building this Model A, and i dont think it would be wise to take chances that dont need to be taken especially if theres a better idea, and if i can make it work better for my way of use.
its Hot Rodding..no one said we had to keep what was used 80+ years ago to build a "right" Hot Rod..or with me ..safety rules over old form and function..

besides it would be hard for me to use mine with all those holes in it

 

Original tank=gas in your lap, small capacity, 75+ year old seams. Looks really good in a stock model A.

Deuce placement: looks good on some Model A's,problems with a quick change or rear elevated vehicle and you now have 16 gallons of gas serving as your rear bumper.

Saddle tanks might be the safest-but you gotta run full running boards-which I don't.

 

Mine is a ford tractor tank from the teens. right out there in back for the world to run into!

 

A normally closed solenoid valve that opens with ignition power solves this problem.

 

cool.