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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by donut29, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. donut29
    Joined: Mar 6, 2006
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    from canton MI

    I got these a couple years ago and I think they are Americans but not 100% sure there is no markings or part# nothing

    also is there anything I can do to even the color they were polished at one time and one is a little darker

    also what can I use to get the nasty duck tape shit off the in side of the wheels I pulled off as much as I could but there's still that nasty sticky stuff left on the wheels
     

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  2. Royalshifter
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    Palamedes..........I would love to have those.
     
  3. Prop Strike
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    Try WD-40 for the sticky stuff. Works good on bumper stickers.
     
  4. dwrfab
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    I think the wheels predate American. They may be Palimedies wheels. He sold his stock in the small co. called American racing wheels so he could go drag racing.
    Go to Roadsters.com and look up Gibbs brand spray. read all the info, order two cans of Gibbs and soak the wheels . It will hold off corision and the wheels will all turn the same shad after a few weeks. Soak the inside also.
    dwrfab Don Ross
     
  5. donut29
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    so was the $300 price tag a good price
     
  6. dragrcr50
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    not real good, but ill help ya out and take em off your hands , say 600?
     
  7. publicenemy1925
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    I'm big on lacquer thinner for tape removal. Cool wheels.
     
  8. Cool wheels...all I know is anything made by American will say American somewhere on them....those are pretty kick ass
    -Dean
     
  9. BOBBY FORD
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    You can double or triple your money and forget the stickey crap removal. Somebody will take them just like they are and pay you some good profit. Thanks, BOBBY FORD
     
  10. Not so. Magnesium American lug mounted wheels never had any name cast into them. They did have a sticker when sold new, but more times than not, that is long gone. As said above, you got ripped off-haha! Get some Gibbs oil, a rag, and some mood music, and go spend some quality time with those wheels.
     
  11. donut29
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    I got them to go on a FED Im going to be building so there not for sale I also have a set of 12 spoke's that are in near NOS condition
     
  12. alchemy
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    As far as I know, those are Palamedes, which he made BEFORE he started American Racing.

    As far as I know, Palamedes or American never put their names on the magnesium wheels.

    And, I second the lacquer thinner to remove the goo. Won't harm the patina, if you want to save that.
     
  13. Acetone will work well, too (on the sticky stuff)
     
  14. donut29
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    thank you everone for your input now its time to clean them up and get some gibbs oil on them






    thanks Tom
     
  15. Pretty sure those are Palamides. To equalize the color just go over both of them with a ScotchBrite pad and then treat them with Gibbs metal penetrant. They'll maintain a nice medium to dark gray and won't corrode.
     
  16. Here is my set with the american racing sticker still on them. The guy I got them from said his buddy ran them on a T with a hemi in the late 50's.

    Still hoping for a picture from him. :D
     

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  17. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    Jacin has a pair of those, my research showed they might have been early Americans.
    He might have a better idea.
     
  18. I had done a seach on Palimedes and found this thread too.

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=152370&highlight=palamides

    I had thought this was interesting from that thread:

    "American Racing-A Company With Roots. In 1954, early drag racing innovator Romeo Palimides teamed up with J.O. Ellison, a San Francisco machine shop owner, to design and craft cutting-edge, high strength-to-weight ratio magnesium racing wheels for his dragster. Eventually they met up with forward-thinking Tom Griffith, an engineer that was ahead of his time, and the heart and soul of American Racing Equipment was born. It was the golden age of hot rodding, and street enthusiast interest in the lighter weight, higher tech wheels was overwhelming. Romeo's original vision, coupled with the leading edge designs of Tom Griffith from that small machine shop in San Francisco, evolved into the world's leading aftermarket wheel company. In 1956, American Racing Equipment, Inc. was incorporated. In those early years, American Racing produced more than thirty styles and sizes for use on the street as well as professional and amateur racing in drag racing, Formula One, Formula Jr. and Grand Tour sports car racing"

    http://www.americanracing.com/bottom...p?section=info
     
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  19. carcrazyjohn
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    300 what a deal .Those are worth at least 800.00 dollars or more .Very nice set of wheels you have there.
     
  20. recardo
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    from Winslow

    Judging from the amount of weight on the back, they might have been run with recaps in a previous life.

    The 4-slot design in magnesium is almost always Palamides.
     
  21. Unkl Ian
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    Unkl Ian

    [​IMG]
    http://www.roadsters.com/wheels/
    From that page:
    "American Racing Equipment was started by Romeo Palimedes in 1959. By 1960, American Racing Equipment was advertising their magnesium rear wheels from six to ten inches wide....Part of the appeal of these wheels is their uniqueness. This is an original design that was produced in small numbers and never copied...."
     
  22. rigermortous
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    from illinois

    they look a lot like the american racing ones my buddy just bought and his still had the stamp on them. goo gone would probablly work
     

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