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?????????? Seatbelts ?????????????????

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by LANCE-SPEED, Sep 18, 2009.

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  1. ricky from va
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    every last one of us that grew up back in the day rode with no belts. bouncing from front to back . laying in the back window all that shit. only diff today is you cant trust any other driver there all out to kill you................ kids should have belts older folks should have a choice. my opinion
     
  2. billsill45
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    That would be another example of Nature's way of weeding out the stupid!
     
  3. wvenfield
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    Still are. Lock your kids in their room or someone should smack you upside your head. I hope you never bought your kid a bike as there are thousands killed on bikes.

    Kids are killed daily in restraints. Perhaps you need to stay off the road completely.
     
  4. hotrodladycrusr
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    Percentage is less now because kids wear bike helmets...well most do, yours probably don't huh?
     
  5. Von Rigg Fink
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    My Daughter rides in my Cars, so I put seat belts in them.
    If you dont like the looks of them at shows, tuck them under the seat.
    But as far a safety device, im putting my money on the seat belt.
    any restraint is better than nothing, at least thats my opinion
     
  6. zman
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    closer to every 2 months, but yeah. here we go again.
     

  7. Man your logic is screwed. There is a world of difference between locking your kids in a room and taking easy proven effective means of protecting them and increasing their odds of not getting hurt while doing things. Is is 100% effective no but seatbelts, helmets (for bikes) etc all reduce the chances of something horrible happening if an accedent does occur.
     
  8. wvenfield
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    I never could get my boys to wear them. My daughter does. (I don't) It still happens though that kids get killed. The risk is likely far higher of a kid getting killed on a bike than a half dozen times a year in the back of dads old car.

    The risk is likely as high of a person killing a kid because he couldn't stop his V8 52 Chevy with non power drum brakes and no power steering.

    Yet, that is encouraged here.
     
  9. Little Wing
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    VERY well put

    and theres either to many people on teh road anymore,,or just the fact that so very few actually pay attention when they are driving,,belts or not,,the roads a alot more dangerous
     
  10. LANCE-SPEED
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    IN 1985 I was 20 and was involved in a head-on collision in my Nissan mini truck, the seatbelt law was not in effect and I wasnt wearing one, used my face to punch a hole in the windsheild. Ironicly a kid I new was t-boned a couple weeks later and was wearing a seatbelt and was killed cause he was crushed. If its your time its your time. I ALWAYS wear a seatbelt now no exceptions. Even in my older cars I've always installed belts.
     
  11. Seatbelts all the way, I have them in everything I own.
     
  12. wvenfield
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    Putting power disc brakes on your car lessens the odds of the accident every happening.
     
  13. And one day, he'll see a station wagon upside down with the little tennis shoes of a 2 1/2 year old sticking out from under.

    Orange County circa 1965.

    Dumb SOB....
     
  14. kustombypook
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    Yes, but back then everyone who drove a car was driving. Now when people get behind the wheel they are shaving, eating, talking on a phone, texting, reading, working, watching TV............The list goes on and on. there are too many people on the road now that have no business on the road.

    Be smart and put seatbelts in and USE them.
     
  15. Yeah and never flying lessens your odds of dieing in a plane crash:rolleyes:. Changing the subject doesn't make your arguement about NOT BUCKLING UP KIDS right.
     

  16. Man I don't know where you are living but I can tell you that the number of kids hit by cars here compared to accidents that occur is not even computable. Maybe you hear about 1-2 kids a year being killed by a moving vehicle and 9 times out of 10 it occurs in someones driveway and they didn't notice a kid behind a car that was being back up. Nothing to do with brakes.
     
  17. Kustomkarma
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    I rolled my car on a city street with the driver's side window down. I was wearing belts - I walked away. I am getting ready to install 3 point belts in my '64 Comet in a few days. Seatbelts generally increase your odds of surviving an accident - why wouldn't you use them? They even make some cool retro looking ones these days. Adults can decide to use them or not, but children are counting on you (the adult) to make good decisions for them. If you happen to get killed in an accident due to not wearing them, what would that do to your kids that were riding with you? Think about it. I also converted to disc brakes BTW.
     
  18. Hellfish
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    Good question. I asked the same thing when I took a class on injury and injury prevention. It was awhile ago, so I forget the exact details, but due to the layout of school buses, speeds, etc, seat belts aren't neccessary. It seems weird, but I guess with those high-backed padded seats, the kids are safe. A car is an entirely different thing
     
  19. pasadenahotrod
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    Virtually every State has a law about seat belts that has a "bailout" for cars prior to 1960/61/62/whatever.
    WHO CARES? Any parent who doesn't install belts in ALL of their cars shouldn't be a parent. If you install them to pretect your children but don't wear them yourselves you aren't pretecting your children from being orphaned, are you?
    Use your heads, try a small dose of common sense, seat belts save lives.

    Don't let your wife or kids pay for your studly pride with a life of pain missing their husband and father.

    If only for the fact that the belt keeps YOU behind the wheel at the controls so you have a chance to drive out of, or lessen the damage from, an accident, that is why you should have belts for all your passengers and yourself.
     
  20. wvenfield
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    No they weren't. Drunk driving wasn't frowned upon like it is now. The two martini lunch was common place and then back to work.

    Holy cow some of the pieces of junk we drove in because it's what we could afford. I remember many mornings scrapping ice off the inside of my buddies car while he drove to school.

    If someone wants my opinion, I'll tell them the same.
     
  21. wvenfield
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    I never made that arguement.
     
  22. pasadenahotrod
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    Nature's way of weeding out the stupid would be fair only if the driver died and the little innocent children survived, but that doesn't happen because the stupid don't buckle their kids in either.
     

  23. HAHAHA So True. I remember doing the same thing in a buddys beetle with that had one of those fire breathing gas heaters in it that did nothing to defrost the windows unless it was 1000 degrees inside the car.
     
  24. hotrodladycrusr
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    Never could get your kids to wear them???:confused: Who's the Dad? Who makes the rules in the house? Kid either wears his helmet or he doesn't ride his bike. Pretty plain and simple.
     
  25. Parts48
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    I wear belts in my daily.
    My old Jag..doesn't have them. I usually am the only one in the car.
    The steering column is a long spear aimed directly at my chest..the windscreen is not strong enough to hold the car up.
    The doors are aluminum without any barrier protect..yes the frame is stout but low and would be of little protection.
    The floors are wood..but my car was an old SCCA racer and has the welded loops for belts on the frame.

    I don't know if I want to be skewerd by the spear..decapitated in the roll over..or cut in half if the body moves along the frame I would be attached to..

    I guess there is no protection in this car..but I might put the belts in to keep my broken body in one nice bloody broken mess..

    I wear the belts EVERY time I'm in a newer car.
    I ride motorcycles..sometimes with and sometimes without a helmet..never liked condoms..and smoke cigars and eat red meat..with a good beer.

    You just pick your poison..but kids don't know better...so my son just started riding in the Jag..he's 19. He is also starting to ride a street bike. I worry he's like I was..crazy..fearless..and lucky.

    My niece was killled (16 yrs old) always wore her belt except this time..arguing with a boyfriend..in a car I advised her parents not to get as a first car..WRX.
    Car filpped at speed..crushing her under the roof..within view of her home..on a curve.
    She was one minute away from home..

    Protect the kids as best you can..and make your own choices when you are old enough. There is no safety net that works completely..even condoms can break..
     
  26. wvenfield
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    No, no it isn't. I mentioned earlier that my folks bought me a dirt bike at 13. They also bought me a helmet and told me that I had to wear it. I didn't always.

    Kids don't always do what they are told. I have twin boys. Just turned 18. As a parent you know that they are going to do dumb risky things. You can't lock them in their room.

    I wasn't real happy with them when a boater had to pluck them out of the middle of the Ohio River when a barge was heading their way (they were trying to swim across) but kids will do that. There is absolutley nothing you can do to stop it. Nothing.

    You do your best, it's all you can do. I kind of doubt that Denise always did what she was told.
     
  27. retromotors
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    Deer teechur,

    pleeze excoose little Johnny for bean late .... agin.

    His dad and me coodnt git his seet belt aloose ...... agin!

    those things are dangrus, whut if we had an assident or sumthin.

    I think ill call my kongrusman and komplane.

    [​IMG]
     
  28. My 52 ply had seat belts ( GM ) in back and 3 point in front. disks and a D slide for the steering. I want to see my kids and grandkids till my time comes
    I also put seat belts and disks on the 57 ford. again we had a member awhile back that lost his wife when ther buick door bumped open and was tossed half way out when it hit the rail. we are looked at every day by john law and the gov we have to make every sure our rods kustoms home built and pro built are safe for the driver and pass and driving public.
     
  29. Shaggy
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    Face it, men have always wanted to die in the most bloody fashion possable, after all when they find some fossils of some ancient man, it's usually like a part of a jaw bone or arm, never a full skeleton. And it not because of some BS reason some gay scientists would want you to believe, like scavengers erosion or other crap

    I want the fat lazy parametics to have to work to pull my mangled corpse out of a 30 foot ravene
     
  30. Who are we to tell a father how to project his kids from the leading cause of death for his kids? Seatbelts for children only increase their survival rate by 80% in fatal crashes. Its not like he is driving drunk or anything.
     
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