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??? Mystery engine ??? What is it ???

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by spence-d, Oct 2, 2009.

  1. spence-d
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    My friend Tom was showing me an old 4 Banger he acquired some time ago and has not yet been able to identify - & it's driving him crazy.

    He has mounted it onto a contraption of his own making so that he can run & drive it ( basically ignore anything that is painted yellow ) He tells me it runs like the clappers.

    The details:

    2 litre capacity.
    Wet clutch with two plates in it.
    Overhead valves.
    Aluminium pistons,sump & transmission housing.
    Very smooth & free flowing exhaust manifold.
    Zenith carby with a ****on when pressed will cut off flow of fuel.
    Front pulley is spring loaded and adjusts its own tension when running. English threads on all bolts etc...

    Tom is into old machinery & seems to think it is about 1925 vintage if this is correct - then with the ohv's / smooth flowing exhaust manifold / aluminium components etc.. I would guess it to be small production numbers British make ( threads & zenith carby ) maybe a sports model or luxury make????

    Could be something special if it is 1920's...

    Someone here has got to know...

    Thanks
    Spence.
     

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  2. I think its one of them good 'ol ENGINE's, says it right there on the side.......
    Sorry, cant help with anything other than a smart *** comment. I have no idea what its from but being the HAMB you will find out soon.
     
  3. spence-d
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    Ahhhhh..... thats what it says on the side there!! :rolleyes:

    Thanks Doc!! every bit helps....:D

    Was thinking it would go well in an old style lakes or hill climb racer...

    Someone here has got to know - Tom has taken it to all sorts of events and has no likely clues yet....

    Spence.
     
  4. Von Rigg Fink
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    looks very agricutural if you ask me..
    tractor like
     
  5. spence-d
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    Thanks Von Rigg Fink,

    Yeah - Tom is into Tractors but did they go to the trouble of having ohv's / sporty manifolds / & lots of aluminium on tractors in the twenties???

    His contraption that he has mounted it to is very agricultural though...

    Spence.
     
  6. No numbers anywhere on it?
     
  7. spence-d
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    Very little to identify it - save for these numbers:

    19
    8
    26

    Spence.
     

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  8. spence-d
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    oh and the numbers 63888 on the transmission lid as per photo in first post.
    Spence.
     
  9. Von Rigg Fink
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    im thinking too..its probably not as old as the 20's

    maybe a continental? or waukesha?
     
  10. spence-d
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    You may be right on it being a bit newer....
    Not familiar with continental's & waukesha are they British or use Brit engines?
    Thanks
    Spence.
     
  11. I think that is a teens Buick engine they had OHV 4s
     
  12. spence-d
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    Thanks Jimmy,
    I will see what else i can find on These Buick OHV's....
    The engine was found somewhere Northern New South wales also.

    Spence.
     
  13. Ok it looks like it isn't Buick they have the intake and exhaust on the left side. Thay are a near mirror image of that motor.
     
  14. Von Rigg Fink
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    sorry i wasnt paying attention to your location..
    not sure if continentals or waukesha engines would have come over to that side of the globe..possibly

    waukesha engines date back to 1906 , they are from the states,Waukesha, WI

    and continentals go back to the 1905 i believe
     
  15. spence-d
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    Yep,
    Saw something similar in my searches....& exhaust manifold discharges at front of engine which i have never really seen before.....

    Those were of a similar vintage to what Tom thinks this is also....

    Spence.
     
  16. X38
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    2 litre is pretty small, especially for early engines, which makes me think it has to be British. And you have established the threads are from there so it kinda adds up. Next...
     
  17. spence-d
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    "Elementary my dear Watson"
    Any input from our British Friends?
    Spence.
     
  18. revkev6
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    every buick I've looked at has the intake and exhaust on the (US) drivers side (left when in the car)

    gotta be something else.
     
  19. JWW
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    It looks a lot like the Kohler engine.

    used in ag pumps and generators and such.
     
  20. spence-d
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    Ok,
    Lets Rule out Buick & turn our attention to British powered...

    So,
    What British make would have no real identifying markings....

    Maybe smaller British outfit getting its engines from a low volume engine supplier...

    Spence.
     
  21. spence-d
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    Thanks,
    Would Kohler have british threads?
    Spence.
     
  22. Little Wing
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    Looks like an Old Continental..
     
  23. Exhaust manifold looks like a Y-block Ford ...
     
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  25. spence-d
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    Found some pics of old Continental Engines.... look similar but not same....
    are Continentals British?

    Anyone in UK have an Idea?

    You must be having lunch about now in front of you computer browsing the HAMB.......

    Good chance the answer will come from your part of the world....

    Thanks
    Spence.
     
  26. Okie Pete
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    Most ag engines had a govner mounted on them. Just a guess but Wisconson built some water cooled engines in the 20's-30's. Is there any manufactures logo on the rocker arms?
     
  27. spence-d
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    Zooming in on the photo there appears to be a diamond shape with maybe some numbers under it......

    Spence.
     

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