After many years of filling my Ford with Chevy engines, I've seen the light. I am hooking together a mess of parts that will eventually become a '40 Ford pickup. I am working on a 302 engine and want to bolt it to a Ford AOD ******. I'm told that they will hook up but I'm not sure what year AOD I should be using. Can someone advise me? Thanks!
Early AOD's weren't computerized, (don't know the changeover year, but someone will) from what I hear later AOD's where built stronger. I have a late 80's AOD (non computerized) behind a 289 that is going in my T-bucket, I'm not to worried about strength in such a light car.
I have an 84 302/AOD from a 70,000 mile car in my 53 F100. I have put quite a few miles on it with no problems at all. Joe
AOD is the non-computer controlled version. It is basically an FMX with overdrive. It was made from 1980 to about 1995. Different models switched to the AODE (computer controlled) in different years. I think that you will find the AOD to be stronger than a C4. First: 2.40:1 Second: 1.47:1 Third: 1.00:1 Overdrive: 0.67:1
Good for you for keeping a Ford in a Ford. I think you may be the first one to "see the light" but it's a good start! And just a friendly reminder... be sure to have the TV cable adjusted correctly on that AOD or you'll burn the transmission up in a matter of minutes. -Chris
I have a 302 in my 40 with a c4. I would like a AOD. I hear thy are bigger then a c4. My cab is channeled and I made the floor to fit a c4.
What year 302? Early 302s had a 28 ounce balance, while later, I think '81-up, had a 50 ounce. It's important to use the correct balance flex plate with your AOD, you can get them both ways. X2 on the TV cable, it has a small range of adjustment but it's right when the trans feels like it's shifting at the right time, not too late or early. -KK
The AOD is indeed bigger than the C4, but about the same length. My roadster needed a new floor when we switched based on the increased size of the bellhousing and trans case. Rear trans mount is also a couple of inches further aft. On your '40 pickup, the X-member will probably need to be m***aged to fit the AOD. We needed to do that for my '40 coupe. Having said all that, the advantages of the overdrive are substantial, and worth the effort.
i have a 302 ford for my bucket but dont get into the ford in a ford thing. hotrods from back in the day never did. seems like the ford in a ford is a street rod thing to me. guess im to old! lol.
can,t see why you needed a ford in a ford i always put what i like in the car guess i,m old school but we did what we wanted unless you are a restorer nothing wrong with a ford motor but when people say put a ford in a ford or a mopar in a mopar or a chevy in a chevy thats not hot rodding just boring my 2 cents
Well said, what next, keep it stock? I always thought the best thing about rods and customs is doing your own thing, and run what you like. Wonder why you never see anyone arguing to keep a Chevy in a Chevy???
The best AOD for a donor core is from 1988-1993 these are non-computer and have all the factory upgrades to address the earlier model bugs and weak points.To gain the most knowledge on the AOD click on this site: www.clickclickracing.com and www.becontrols.com
Find out what is needed to stuff that motor in too. They are longer, so you have to deal with that, and the oil pan/pickup/pump wants to be where the crossmember is. As for the side issue, I don't have an issue with the other stuff, just a SBC in a Mopar. A SBC in a Ford was done right off the bat and is traditional. The SBF didn't come out until the 60s, and was harder to install than a SBC in 32-48 Fords. It's a bit more work to install a SBF, so you will have more interest in your car when it's done.
why would you want to put a ford in a ford??? Just kidding thats the right thing to do! I hate seeing chevys in fords
Correct. This site has info on that plus an adapter to give you the correct geometry for the TV cable. I am using a Lokar cable. http://www.transmissioncenter.org/ Good luck.
Hallelujah! I heard a new messiah had arrived & change was on the way, now I'm a believer! Fords in Fords might be boring but not as much as SBC in a -----, or SBC in that -------...... But seriously, good for you, I'm sure it'll be a challenge but worth it when done.
i have a full 5.0 efi motor and aod swapped into my '71 f-100 part hauler. best combo ever. aod is pretty easy. hardest part was adapting the column shifter to the linkage. other than that it was fine. oh, and the rear ****** mount moved back an inch or two.
I have a 302/AOD in my 27 tub. The overdrive makes for a nice driver. Just make sure you use the correct flex plate for the AOD. Lokar makes a nice tv cable with brackets to make adjustment easy, and the adjustment is critical. The best part of a Ford in a Ford is how sweet they sound with a set of smithys, way different than all the chevys everybody is used to hearing - but that would be a different thread.
I'm using a 302 (351 heads) with an AOD. I had the AOD beefed up to shift harder. I was raised in a Ford family, my dad and his brothers has 30's fords and granddad raced on the beach at Daytona back in the day. I have learn to except those other engines in hot rods but it still makes me a little ill. It is harder to fit it in there but that's the fun part! I'm just a Ford guy with a Ford wife and a Ford driving son. Oh ya, my little girl's name is Shelby. My build, http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=324514&showall=1
Putting a chevy motor in a Ford is the same as transplanting a pigs heart in a human. Both my 32s have 302s in them. The panel has a AOD behind it and the coupe has a computer run AODE. Both combinations are fantastic. Good luck with your 40.
I'm going with a stroked Lincoln motor in my model t. Like makin love in the country...Gotta keep it in the family.
In todays world going Ford is not much of a problem. I see a lot of post stating there longer and hard to install. I say ******** there no harder than any other motor to line up in your ch***is. Hard or difficult is a cad in a 49 chev or 49 ford. Now thats tight. Advantage today is there are thousands of small block ford motors available and any place in the country there is a parts supply if needed. I use to use a lot of 327 chev's and now there rare as hen's teeth to locate. With all the traveling todays rodders do you really need a supply of parts where ever you may go. The SB 350 chev are also very available so its a personal decision to make. Either way when finished you will have fun on the road and thats what its about any way.
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