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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by wickedgoodracer, Oct 13, 2009.

  1. wickedgoodracer
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    this car landed in maine this summer.has inline 6 .has a 'old school' 2 pump hyd. system,sunken dual antenas,mild custom int. has a goodguys sticker,
    fair to good condition,
    who built it? where, is it worth anything?only problem i see is a minor oil leak on one hyd. hose and one on a rear cyl. these are real small leaks 2, 2 to 3 in. spots and car has not moved all summer. also drivers side window down 3 in. all summer.possible door solonoid problem.
    should i make an offer ?i don't need another car but it would look better sitting at my place
    yes i know the wheels ain't that cool
     

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  2. Inline six makes it a Canadian Pontiac most likely, points to it being from up north...
     
  3. wickedgoodracer
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    yes,think it was a pareisian[sp],outline in dash looked like that,can't tell about headlights,flat smoked plastic covers ,possibly s 10?
     

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  4. 58 Delpala
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    its a 60 Pontiac Catalina. There is a guy selling a vert version on here somewhere.

    If its anything like the 60 Chevies it could have come with a 6 in it.
     
  5. BHfanGB
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    Nope, no 6 cylinders in full sized U.S. Pontiacs from 1955 through 1976. In '77, when GM downsized the B-bodies, the Buick-sourced V6 was standard in the entry-level Catalina.

    If this has got a 6 cylinder, it was swapped in (why?!!!!) or the car is a Canadian Pontiac.
     
  6. metalman
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    man, I don,t know, that thing has 1989 screaming all over it. Maybe with different wheels, paint and I'm guessing interior it would be a cool crusier. A v-8 swap would be nice too. The price would have to be right, for that much work might be better starting with a virgin.
     
  7. wickedgoodracer
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    the guy that owns it said it was canadian,nice tuck and roll white over stock seats,mostly stock dash.
    bad part is i saw it on a flatbed today,flatbed came back by within 15 min.so it couldn't have gone far.search is on again.this time for info and car.
    also,the six looks like a 235 has 2 monojet carbs on finned aul.intake,a nicely made header with duals,finned tappet and valve cover. real clean under the hood,why change what aint broke.
    car has a generator and power stearing,brackets and mounts and wire harness all look stock and in v/g condition
     
  8. calvinh
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    Not true. The 215 inline 6 was standard on most Tempests. That was a full size car.
     
  9. 50stude p/u
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    wickedgoodracer, I feel that your signiture is very fitting for this situation.
     
  10. it could be saved. ive said it before and ill say it again, boy im glad the 80s are long gone.
     
  11. forsakenfew
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    that is the worst example of a 60 pontiac i have ever seen... so sad.
     
  12. wickedgoodracer
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    wow, i didn't realize it was such a POS,i guess all my taste must be in my mouth. lets see what you've got must be f---in nice! i thought some diffrent headlamp treatment and a fresh vintage paint job and it would be the shit.guess it's just plain old shit with no redeamable value.
     
  13. forsakenfew
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    never said it was a POS, or that it wasn't salvageable. as it sits, it's horrible. the wheels? the bumpers? headlights? the PAINT? just my opinion. you want to see my car? sure. here ya go....
     

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  14. Here you go boys, it was built in the mid eighties by Ron Box out of Komoka Ontario, I damn near bought it myself when it was mint green with a shade darker scallops. Very pretty then! Ed McLean bought it when I didn't and did the "facelift" it was pretty hip at the time. The six banger was very reliable, made a ton of leadsled spectacular shows and got magazine coverage a bunch of times.Ron also built a very slick 56 Lincoln Premier, butter yellow with a chopped top. Hope this helps out, go buy it and fix the paint, replace the wheels with the nice lancer caps that used to be on it and you'll have a really kool car again! I'd think about it myself if it's still for sale, would be nice to see it around home again....
    Chris.
     
  15. Oh yeah, by the way it is the right engine. Canadian cars did have the banger! What are they asking for it, I'm serious . I'd like to have it.
     
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    The Alexander Brothers "Golden Indian" is perfection. What a beautiful car!
    Buy that one and shoot for this!
     
  17. forsakenfew
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    yes!!
     
  18. Forsakenfew

    I got to see The Golden Indian up close and personal at a show a few years ago. Good lord, what a nice car! The interior is pure understated elegance. I took a shitload of pics and can't find a damned one to post so I had to steal that picture.

    One of my all time favorites.
     
  19. forsakenfew
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    i've loved that car for years...i'm actually "borrowing" quite heavily from the indians interior for my car. if you find some of those interior shots, i'd love to see them, as i've only seen a few, and have never seen one of the headliner...
     
  20. http://www.customclinic.com/fullcust/Abros/AUindian/auindian.html

    Here are a few interior shots of the Indian, but you've probably seen these already. If I can find my pics, I'll post some. I had a metric ton of them but I can't find one of them!
     
  21. wickedgoodracer
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    i just thought WORST EXAMPLE was a little harsh .your example is just a little showey for my taste ,i like the understated.i don't like to use all the crayons in the box every time.
    i already said the wheels,paint and headlamps should go,is there anything worth saving?
    the basic frame ,body,and running gear are all very nice,don't see many lowriders on this coast,we are 'bout as 'behind the times'on the right coast as can you all can tell by my poor taste in projects.
    at least it isn't a 'itchy' 32 w/painted on 'rust'
     
  22. If it's the original engine, it's a 261. And Ron Box does NICE work. Maybe not too traditional, but nice.
     
  23. forsakenfew
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    i've given you my opinion. i love 60 pontiacs, and in my years of building mine, i've seen plenty. that is the worst one yet, hence "worst example". i'm not bagging on the workmanship,,just the thought process and finished product. it is hard to see all the details with the small pics.

    the car is obviously worth saving. now again,,only MY personal opinion,, but the taillights gotta go,,the horrible exhaust..(i'm guessing flamethrowers??? ugh), the bumpers look molded to the body... NO.,, a nice molded roll pan, ala the golden indian,, YES.

    yup, my car is pretty "showy", but it's also a fairly traditional style that will withstand the ages...
     
  24. wickedgoodracer
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    both ends of the spectrum,thanks chris for the answer to my original question,this is some of what i am looking for. forsaken,sorry for my angry comeback,if i wanted negative i'd asked the ex.
    should i throw this on the 'card',sell something[i hate to],or look for something not so 'sad'?i don't really need another project but the big ole hardtop w/ the 6 banger is saying HELP ME!!!plus i'd like to be the first to 'taildrag'2 mile hill!would that make a lightshow?
     
  25. Nope, wrong. The Tempest (which gave birth to the GTO) was an intermediate (B body)
    Full size Pontiac would be a Catalina / Bonneville , which only came with a V 8.
     
  26. wickedgoodracer
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    markyac,try to keep up,the experts have already been here.you ever been up north,EH,evan i knew the 6 cyl part,just don't know what looks good
     
  27. Come on, if you're going to nitpick something goofy and irrelevant to the thread, at least get it right. While a Tempest may seem like a stretch limo compared to most modern cars, it was GM's MIDSIZE platform. What do you think a Catalina or Bonneville was? Plus Size? Full Figured? Jeeze...

    As someone else said, Canadian Pontiacs used the 261 six through '62 and under the skin are largely Chevrolet - chassis, suspension, brakes, same wheelbase etc. I'm sure this car is mechanically correct, I just pointed out the difference to try to help provide a clue as to where the car came from. Which whether it helped or not, the car's been ID'ed. A Chevy V8 would be a bolt-in with the right mounts.

    I don't care for the headlights or the monochrome look, and the '59 Cad lenses are as overplayed as a Beatles song - cool, but annoying to see/hear constantly - but I figure a car's going to generate as many opinions about it as the number of people who see it and form an opinion.
     
  28. foresaken - I just tried PMing you and your inbox is full. I am local to Seattle and have been trying to catch you stopped somewhere every time I see your ride to ask a few questions. Please shoot me a PM. Thanks.

    sorry to hijack this thread.
     
  29. wickedgoodracer
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    i'll try to get some better pics as soon as i find what shop it went to.
    no flame throwers,just pencil tip scavanger pipes[long small dia.tips.]
    my last custom i spent a day just grinding gallons of bondo off a verry straight car,then cut off some fucking ugly bumpers made out of conduit,tin and fiberglass.i also agree the 80's style or lack of would scare off a lot of people but my friend who passed many years ago had a 60 cat.that he drove the whole winter of '68 with no hood.it was so cool to see this white tin indian start up after a snowstorm and within 5 min. the whole engine was visible,left quite an impression on a 15 year old kid.
    it does have some nice full skirts and the interior is pretty nice for 20 plus years old.its very simple with not much wear so that and the engine would be the last to be changed.probably would never change the engine .might have to install a wood gassifire if the economy dosen't improve.
    forsaken,sorry i flaired ,hate to say i'm wrong but i asked and then overreacted,MY BAD,now how 'bout a little encoragement. thanks! mark
     
  30. forsakenfew
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    Mark,

    no worries man, we're good. i can be a bit opinionated when it comes to these cars, and the style/era that i enjoy..

    get me some better pics. as bad as I may think the car looks...(and i'm just one person..i'm not the style police) i'd hate to see a good hardtop go to waste. if you can pick it up for a reasonable price, have at it man!! lets see the interior, the engine, the hydro set up. how bout a close up look at the bumpers?? most everything seems easy to fix, but im worried about those bumpers if they are indeed molded in..

    again,, the car has potential, it just needs a little "massaging"... sorry if i came off like an ass,, wasn't my intention
     

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