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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by myride2, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. myride2
    Joined: May 10, 2009
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    from canada

    ok,so we haul the cars out of the weeds,get them home and have a better look at them.one is a 51 for sure but i don't know if the other is a year younger.its got the smaller back window as u can see,also the rear vent windows do not open,maybe a cheaper model?my ? is do i try to fix the badly caved in roof on the 51 or do i transplant the roof with the smaller back window unto the 51.The floor pan on the 51 is almost perfect no rust perferation at all.Also ,since these are both more doors ,would they be interchangeble?
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  2. plodge55aqua
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    Hello,, the Roof looks a little rough.. and it could be repaired.. is the parts car a two door?

    Hornets are Cool.. Nice car..
     
  3. If you want to learn metalwork, or you have an idea what you're doing, it shouldn't be too bad to try to straighten out that top. I almost think I'd roll that '51 just the way it is. But the tops are interchangable other than the rear window opening. About the only major differences in step-downs are some have a shorter wheelbase, which is all ahead of the cowl. The rest of the changes are fairly minor.

    If you post the first three or four digits of the serial number of the other one, I can tell you what model and year it is. Tag is on the right hinge post.
     
  4. Undertaker-DK
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    U lucky s. o. a. b. ;-)
    That 51 is exactly the model i am looking for. There aren't many of them here in Denmark.
    How much mony did you pay for them ?

    Kim
     
  5. jimi'shemi291
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    MyRide2, yup, NICE score there, especially if you didn't have to pay an arm & leg?

    If that Hornet was in the woods, it doesn't appear to have been in there long. Overall decent shape! I'm with RustyNY: I think you'd be way ahead to fix the roof, instead of transplanting the other one.

    As for year on the smaller window, my vote goes for '49, since you say it's a 4-door. (Also the narrower tail light housings.) Other votes?
     
  6. Mench
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    First one is a Pacemaker,show the front and we can tell the year or check the tag on the front door....second one is 51 Hornet..nice looking cars...what engine does it have? What about the Pacemaker? Is it all there...I have NOS tail lites,gl*** and chrome housings.Maybe some other trim peices.
     
  7. 100% Matt
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    It'll be easier to fix the roof . Hudson are uni-body construction. Not an easy car to do a roof swap or chop on. You could just get rid of the roof and put on a carson top. :D
     
  8. myride2
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    both the cars sat in the bush for bout 7 yrs.every1 thats responded feel that the roof line would be repairable. the older hudsons roof line is perfect.after playing with the 51 roof line there appears to be some what i think they call tin canning going on(something like a spring u pull 1 way and it returns back.i don't think this is a easy condition to fix.
     
  9. myride2
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    the cars belong to my son in law .his father p***ed on last year and was the owner of these two vehicles.his last name is also hudson and maybe that is the only reason he acquired the cars.hopefully i can help my son in law bring 1 of these back to life so he can have something to p*** onto his children.
     
  10. redsean
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    nice buy... got to love the hudsons. are u gonna use one as just a parts car or fix them both?
     
  11. myride2
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    the 51 has the 308 cubic inch,but not the twin h setup for carbs.i still don't know which way my son in law will want to go with the restoration.personally i would like to turn it into a custom,but their his cars and i'm here just to help see some unfinished dream come to life.
     
  12. myride2
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    i would love to fix up both hudsons,of course like i say ,they are not mine to make that call.the older hudson is missing the trunk lid and hood.also it is a standard and only came with the trans and clutch disc.the doors and roof are in really good shape so i guess right off hand i would have to ***ume we will be transfering some of the good stuff unto the 51.
     
  13. Winged Avenger II
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    hudsons are very cool cars and you dont see enough of them.
     
  14. jimi'shemi291
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    For my money, cooler than Mercs AND naturally LOW!!!
     
  15. jimi'shemi291
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    I think the roof repair would work best with TWO guys -- hammer & dolly situation AND a lot of patience. I think it'll regain it's shape pretty well if you put time into it, and you won't need as much fill.

    I'm sure there are SHOP guys who've done this though, so I'd like to hear from THEM about technique THEY use!
     
  16. jimi'shemi291
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    BTW, the Carson top idea? I've never seen it done. Wonder if James D or another PhotoShop guru could play with THAT!
     
  17. moparmonkey
    Joined: Aug 14, 2009
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    Nice find! I love the old Hudson's, the lines on them are awesome.

    I'd fix the roof. It doesn't look all that bad, and it'd be a shame to cut the other one up. If the roof is oil caning it'll have to have some metal shrinking done in the problem area. Its not hard to do for someone that knows bodywork, and can be learned if you're willing to put some time in. And, since they're unibody's, it'd be easier than trying to transplant the roof from the other one. No guarantee you wouldn't have oil caning or other issues with the transplanted roof, especially if things didn't go quite right.
     
  18. 100% Matt
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    If those cars sat in the bush for 7 years make sure you check the rear quarters for structural stability. The only downfall of uni-body construction is heavy rust in the rear rockers can result in serous structural issues
     

  19. Thats pretty funny, theres a guy down here with Hudson as his last name and guess what??? he's into Hudsons too
     

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