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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pstreet, Oct 26, 2009.

  1. pstreet
    Joined: Aug 13, 2008
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    After many many years of drooling over others hot rods, and wasting my time and money on a couple of mini trucks (sigh), Ive finally purchased my first hot rod to be.

    It was advertised as a 1928-1931 dodge brothers. After looking around im pretty sure its a 1928, but im sure someone here will know a bit more than myself.

    Im making the 1400 mile (each way) trip to pick it up over the long thanksgiving weekend, and was hoping someone here might know the dimensions of the frame/body so i can pick up the right trailer to fit it.

    I hope to end up with a simple/clean rod that i can drive the piss out of in a few years.

    Here are some pictures. the drivers side has some damage to it, ill see if i can hammer it out, but i may be looking for a new door or two if anyone knows where some are.
    I never thought i would be buying a dodge, or a four door for that matter. but when i saw this, i had to have it.

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  2. BobPer
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    Hi, You just bought yourself a 1929 Dodge Standard Six. The body line on the side of the cowl is the give away. The 28 didn't have it. I used to have one myself, but sold it about 5 years ago to finance my current project. Good luck, Bob
     
  3. golgotha
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    LOOKS CLOSE TO MY 29' DODGE DA FOUR DOOR, HAVE FUN WITH IT !!!!:cool: GOLGOTHA.
     
  4. garth slater
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    whats the plan for the driveline?
     
  5. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Congrats!

    The seller should be able to give you the body/frame dimensions.

    Instead of hauling an empty trailer there, consider driving the 1400 miles, then renting a one way trailer back.
    U Haul has a 6x12 open utility trailer that would probably haul it no problem and may be less weight to tow than a conventional car trailer.

    Also consider flying out and renting a box truck one-way back.
    I just hauled a car body (51 Mercury) in a Penske 8x16 box diesel w/ liftgate (they also have smaller Van chassis box trucks-close the door and let the frame rails hang out). It was $45 a day and they gave me a great mileage rate at 24 cents a mile. That would run you about $500 + air fare, but you'd be driving 1400 less miles and save motel/fuel/food, etc.
     
  6. skull
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    l have a 30? 4dr dodge or desoto, lv'e been told that by people who looked at it, does any one here know for sure? ,, heres a pic of my rusty one and a pic of a guy who took 30 dodge 4dr and made a 2 dr outtta it,,,.2dr coversion don't look all that bad,,,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm sawzall and a welder time????..later:cool:
     

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  7. Not a '29 Chevrolet- look at the dash. Chevrolet dash ovals are less "round".

    That's a Dodge- nice find!
     
  8. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    GM cars and pickups are wood structured and have wood-structured doors through 1936. Yes the late production Chevy/GMC pickups were steel structured as well as a few 36 Standard only Chevy cars but the bulk of production was wood-structured.
     
  9. budd
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    heres a friends 1930 Chrysler, stock, he drives this thing all over the place, ok its not a hot rod..
     

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  10. Abolton
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    from Ontario

    there is one of these babies rotting in a field near Hamilton, Ontario, if any of you guys are local and looking for parts...its been there at least 30 years, i remeber it as a kid.I walked back there earlier this summer, and its still there, very rough, I would say strictly parts but the drivetrain is in it ..and those Mopar parts can be hard to find
    looks cool....good luck
     
  11. Shaggy
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    Square rear window was changed to round mid year in '30 on coupes
     
  12. ...doc...
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    if you do get it, I would be interested in the drivers side rear door, I have a coupe and I need a drivers side door, and I know others have made a drvers side door from a rear door.

    THANKS
     
  13. noboD
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    First one looks to be maybe '31, because of the dual top cowl vents. Wheelbase could be 114. DAs had side cowl vents. Skull's is either '33 or '34, only DB with front and rear suicide doors.
     
  14. golgotha
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    LISTEN TO noboD HE KNOW HIS EARLY MOPARS !!!!:D GOLGOTHA.
     
  15. supervert
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    my uncle has the same one and about the same condition in his back yard, i been beggin for it for a few years:mad: his is a 29
     
  16. pstreet
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    thanks for the replies guys.

    Thanks for the info, i noticed the body line as well but though that someone had just smoothed it out on the car i had seen.

    Id like it to have a 440 like my old dart, but ill have plenty of time to decide. definitely going to be mopar though.

    South Dakota

    Yeah, the plan was to pick up the trailer there, no sense in hauling an empty one. Im definitely going uhaul as well since their rates are reasonable. The 6x12 was what i was looking at, but thought i might be able to get away with the 5x9. Also thought of the flight and drive back but a one way flight over thanksgiving weekend and one way box truck rental is mighty spendy. The cheapest route ended up being me driving and towing. Plus I get a turn and burn road trip out of the deal.


    Not a bad looking car, but that wheel well is hideous.
     
  17. skull
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    cool/////
    thank you for letting me know the year of mine.
    cutting it down to a 2 door soon.
    small block chevy and a 700R4 connected to ford nine inch rearend.

    later
     
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  18. noboD
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    I don't know CRAP, just have a book with pictures.
     
  19. ... you're just a smidgen too modest there, Doug :D
     
  20. Ghost28
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    Not to throw another one in the mix. But any ideas on this mopar. I think it is a chrysler ????
     

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  21. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    Another option is to jam the frame/body in the bed of a fullsize pickup w/ tailgate down. Saves renting/towing a trailer and you can speed w/o worrying about a trailer in tow.
     
  22. noboD
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    I'll let Mac the Yankee tell you what this one is. BTW, I looked at one of these last weekend. Ghost28, is there any part of the original floor left from this car?
     
  23. Ghost28
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    I don't think so the car is layed over the frame pretty heavy. And the floor board I believe is long gone. But the back of the car is what is throwing me off. It must have a removable trunk area because of how far the wheels sit at the back of the body.
     
  24. freeze plug
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    its a 1929. not sure what nameplate though...
     
  25. donnymopar
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    Very cool! I would go with the 6 x 12 open trailer from U-haul. Last year at this time I too drove 1,400 miles each way and picked up a 31 Plymouth Sedan from North Dakota...lol. It was cheaper to get the u-haul trailer and run it there and back than to do a one way. I will try and dig up some picks and show you what it looks like on the trailer.

    Don
     

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  26. donnymopar
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    I don't think Plymouth...I have a 31 and no side vents. It looks like someone may have put it on a different frame? or lengthen it with box tubing?...my guess would be 29 dodge...has low priced fenders ( no wheel wells in tops of front fenders for spare)...it looks like the cab was moved forward, (the extra piece of sheet metal across the back - same piece as the most outboard one - which has the small attachment holes for the spare tire bracket - the cab should butt up against there...back 2 feet...)
     
  27. I have a 1929 dodge 4 door it has side vents in the cowl ahead of the front doors , also check for a raised body line on top of the cowl from the doors narrowing to the center of the hood shaped much like a flattened "Y". The dash cut out long and narrow not oval but I think the 1928's were. The second car in the mix looks like a 1928-29 senior 6 dodge coupe , check the body line on the rear fender. Rob
     

  28. Ghost28,

    Are those side vents home made? If so, that's a 28 Dodge Victory 6. We've had one for years- that short coupled sedan body is a really nice look and they're pretty hard to find. Too bad about it getting the RR treatment!
     
  29. noboD
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    Mac, do you think this could be the '29 DA version of the Victory brougham? The book says they made one. I was thinking Victory too, but as you said shouldn't have side cowl vents. If it's a Victory it definately the short cowl version you spoke of. The DA did have side cowl vents. Ghost, the reason I ask about the floorboards is they built four passenger coupes in this same body. The Brougham had a flat floor with regular seats and the four passenger coupe had a jump seat that folded down into the floor. There would be a rectangular area at the passenger seat 2 to 3 inches lower then the rest of the floor. There would have also been a large box behind the drivers seat making the rear seat more of a 3/4 seat. It was the glove box. Can you post a pic of the dash area, maybe that would help? I love the short coupled rear end of the Brougham body.
     
  30. Could be- that cowl is different from ours (we have the short cowl) and the reveal around the rear window is diff from a Victory... I think your on to something!
     

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