Features VINTAGE SPRINT CAR PIC THREAD, 1965 and older only please.

You might want to make sure you are logged in and give it another shot. I will delete my post there if you want me too.

 

I was logged in, but it wouldn't let me post. Wierd, because I can post on this thread anytime I log in.

 

I have to find it, but it has the cars going thru a cornor rear view like you standing on the wall in the cornor.

 

I agree to an extent.. I don't mind the guys asking questions, and getting a few short answers.. (hell, I do it all the time!) but if it gets real involved and detailed, I prefer they take it to Pm's (Private messages).

I usually have two or three very detailed discussions going in my Pm's and e-mail at all times.

That being said, your all in charge of this deal, It's not mine, nor anyones "call" to "steer" it.. It steers itself.

Only time you guys will hear me speaking up is to keep the "Jalopy's" and "Modifieds" out.. Sprints, Midgets, and Champ cars only.. (and karts and 1/4 midgets too! ha ha)

 

Went to freemont Open wheel Swap on Friday and Sat. It was pretty good! I got a few odds and ends.. and a tire I've been looking for for a long time!

There were a lot of 80's non-down tube chassis there for cheap! These cars are going to be the next crop.. Better start stashing them away!

The 70's car on the trailer was interesting. The owner thought it was a Paul Leffler car. Some others didn't think so. It's not far off the 51 car's cage above! The Axle was beautiful! ..and the front torsions were lengthwise in the frame. At $7000 for what you see laying there, I thought it was a lil' pricey, but... It's the real thing.








These aren't pre 69' but I enjoyed seeing them surfacing, and for sale. This is what I remember growing up.








This car was cool! First Thousand bucks bought it with lots of extra's.

 

INDY ROADSTER QUIZ TIME..

Anyone have any Idea who an "H & H" Indy car would have been?

Thanks,

J shaw

 

Looks like a Leffler to me. Is it?

 

Corngrower did you mean 1/4 scale midgets OK but not modifieds,Imca (our Amca) OK?...LOL www.luddenhamquarterscalespeedway.com

 

Very cool Hutcho!


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Brian.. I didn't know if it was or wasn't. Thought it was, but there were doubters.. but, there always is. Ha ha.

I figure our boys will know.

 

Good looking unrestored 1/4 midget on Ebay for sale!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vint...ptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

 

Heres one of Joe Wolf from Reading Pa, who went on to win the nascar championship in 56 or 57 w/ Fonte Flock driving.. The car says Frank Curtis but the photo has Joe Wolf w/ Wally Cambell writen on the back... sorry not v. versed in old dirt/sprinters just thought someone might know of or enjoy....

 

forgot to attach !!!!

 

The cage on the swap meet "Leffler" car appears to be 4 vertical tubes welded to the bottom of the halo bar. Can't say I've seen too many done like that and the 51 car has the more conventional, continuously bent tubes. (?)

 

Good pic, thanks. Appears to be around 1953, more can be found here:

http://www.wallycampbell.com/1953-6.html

 

Yep.. definatly not the same car, but same era..

Four post "halo" set up is interesting.. I didn't notice that.

 

I'm sure most of you know but to avoid confusion for some that don't

the east coast Frank CURTIS

Is NOT the West Coast Frank KURTIS car builder

 

Right you are there Racer 5c, but the "C" Curtis was a car builder also. Max confusion! He even did an Indy car or two!

 

Your right he did, Junior Dreyer has a CURTIS roadster midget and a KURTIS roadster midget

 

Speakin' of midgets and buildin' and Dreyer, and stuff, this #7 TQ has a Pop Dreyer tail, (purchased from him) and I was also told that he originated this particular design with integral swept in "head rest". A cool picture because the other two cars, having tails made from passenger car pieces, show evolution in one shot.

Whatya' think 5C and others, and was this mentioned before in this tread? Being 392 pages big, how could we remember?!

 

And unless I'm wrong the Frank Curtis (with a "C") was not only from the east coast .. but to narrow it down .. from Long Island, NY.

 

Hey Big John 37 ..

I've been meaning to reply to this. Just saw it again.

Jiggs Peters was your Uncle?

I'll never forget a URC sprint car race at Trenton (NJ). In the 1960's me thinks. Your Uncle Jiggs in the lead .. LARGE chunks of rubber being thrown off his right rear for the last few laps .. REALLY HIGH in the air. .... They were actually smoking when they hit the track.

Did this stop Jiggs??? ... NOPE!!!!

He continued on like this .. REALLY ON THE GAS ... chunks litterly & continuously flying off his right rear .. until he took the checkered flag.

He had his most recognizeable smile on his face while being interviewed at the start finish line (by Sam Noonis I think?) ... as the car was sitting there .. the right rear noticeably smoking .. some how still holding air .. with very little of the tread left.

Jiggs Peters put on ONE HELL OF A SHOW that day.

 

Ken-Frank Curtis-no relation to the famous Frank Kurtis,did indeed live on Long Island.
In fact he lived in Hewlett LI NY. Right down the block from my Grandparent`s house. I used to go by there as a kid hoping to catch a glimpse of them working on the racers in the garage.

Curtis was kind of a big deal as he had a car that made Indy around 1958.
Before my time he had some good running midgets and Sprint cars.


He was a cranky old SOB and didn`t want kids hanging around.

That was OK I got plenty of fun in my Dad`s and Uncle Jerry`s garage watching them work on and build their Midgets,Sprints TQ,etc. They never chased me off. Once in awhile they sent me down to the Deli to get a six pack of beer for them. Could you imagine what would happen today if anyone sent a kid down the block for beer!?
It sure was a different world back in the sixties.



"Hey Big John 37 ..

I've been meaning to reply to this. Just saw it again.

Jiggs Peters was your Uncle?

I'll never forget a URC sprint car race at Trenton (NJ). In the 1960's me thinks. Your Uncle Jiggs in the lead .. LARGE chunks of rubber being thrown off his right rear for the last few laps .. REALLY HIGH in the air. .... They were actually smoking when they hit the track.

Did this stop Jiggs??? ... NOPE!!!!

He continued on like this .. REALLY ON THE GAS ... chunks litterly & continuously flying off his right rear .. until he took the checkered flag.

He had his most recognizeable smile on his face while being interviewed at the start finish line (by Sam Noonis I think?) ... as the car was sitting there .. the right rear noticeably smoking .. some how still holding air .. with very little of the tread left.

Jiggs Peters put on ONE HELL OF A SHOW that day."


I was there that day!!! I still remember that too. He was running 106 MPH laps with the tire coming apart. The announcer was going nuts. Everyone thought he was going to blow a tire and get hurt or worse.
This was before they made the track bigger with the Dog leg.
Around 1967 I think. Dutch Shaeffer got burned bad in the Mataka 3n1 Sprint that weekend.
Jerry blew an Engine in Dusty Thacker`s car and they went home and got the engine out of our sprint car in Rockville Centre and I think that motor broke,too.
It must have been a multi-day show.So long ago that part is hazy.

 

ken schou/buildy - thanks for rememberin! my cousin brian called me yesterday, after his first visit to the EMMR museum, had to fill him in on some "Jiggs" history, includin where the nickname came from. he was equally adept on dirt or asphalt, and especially good in long distance races, langhorne, trenton, etc. he was the best known of the 4 racin brothers, Al, Walt, my dad, John, all ran stock cars locally, were all part of 13 kids. BTW, Ken, one of my first cousins, is Ken Schuh!, my dads sisters son. Still have a great time talkin with people who remember him, about his successes in ARDC, AAA, USAC, and URC. Especially, Mr. Brenn who still holds him in the highest regard.

 

Rootie;
The pic on that magazine looks to be the Jim Rigsby fatel. One story i heard back then said his car flipped 200 ft into the air! i can see that it was a very nasty wreck, but that sounds a little far out?

 

Spike-
Can't say, for sure, who it was. That is a cover of a old 50s magazine on E-bay that I've bid on as I've always had interest in the anti-racing movement in the 50s, if I get it maybe it will say more. Yeah, 200 ft. would be a stretch, but whoever it was, I have to believe it didn't end well.

 

Ok this is FROM JERRY WEEKS!


I don't recall anything specific about that car and when or how it was built. Don did go to South Africa to race Super Modifieds-twice maybe?- and that car may actually have been built while he was gone,
but there is no way it would, or could have been built without Don's approval or input. We did monkey around with the order of things, because employees always think they can be more efficient than the boss, but we were left with a work list and would have stuck with it. Do you remember how small that shop was? Nothing could have been done without everyone, including Jeff Cole-(Don's cousin), knowing about it.


Sorry to ruin a good "Urban Belief Tale", but it didn't happen that way.


What a great bunch of characters we had in the shop in those days, including Tattersal and Stroud- McGreevy, Linne, Strickland, Kenyon, Pens, Vukovich, Kunzman, Wente, it would be a long list. Bob Olds is one that I still look up when I go to Denver.


Cheers Jerry

 

Big John,if you have any photos of Jiggs Peters to post I know we`d love to see them.

He was quite a driver!

 

That pulp Mag photo does look like Jim Rigsby to me also.

He launched out at one of the Hills,I don`t remember which track.

Checking Wiki-it was Dayton 1952.

"Jim Rigsby (June 6, 1923 – August 31, 1952) was an American racecar driver from Spadry, Arkansas. He was killed in horrible crash during a sprint car race at Dayton, Ohio."

 

"Heres one of Joe Wolf from Reading Pa, who went on to win the nascar championship in 56 or 57 w/ Fonte Flock driving.. The car says Frank Curtis but the photo has Joe Wolf w/ Wally Cambell writen on the back... sorry not v. versed in old dirt/sprinters just thought someone might know of or enjoy...."


You`re darn right I enjoy it!!! Thanks for posting the photo of one of my heroes-Wally Campbell!

 

Jiggs Peters in the Barzda #6, W/G 1963.