Another Chevy 4 post for Jimmy B. Found this in and old Secrets of Speed, owned by Melvin Kirkpatrick. A quick list of parts... homemade rockers, 1.6 to 1. on the olds head 60 over egge pistons, 8 to 1 compression. 1957 312 cam followers. They have correct length with a larger one inch cam face and 1/2 inch shanks. Block was bored and then brass bushings installed and reamed to 1/2 inch. Chevy V8 1 7/8 valves, 216 Chevy valve springs and V8 retainers. GMC 270 push rods, same length as originals. HD Linkert carbs. This engine was originally raced in the 20's and 30's by The Hurley Brothers from Salinas, found and restored/upgraded by Kirkpatrick.
The all most stock guys that I see them with say they like the head. I hear good HP numbers can be made with one. If I bought one I would have to grind off that dumb ass looking lion. I would like to see a head shut out same engine just change the head.
Enbloc used to run a Lion head. He swapped it out for a Winfield and ran a 15. Obviously there's more to it than that, but you get my drift!
I have one on an A motor with 1 stromberg 97 , I like the power increase,but have some detonation issues. I have a stock dist. I have seen suggested to use a centrifical advance dist. to help with this problem, but haven't gotten around to trying one yet. I have another new one that I want to try hoging out a bit.
Check this out for info on the Lion head Some good dyno info here http://www.modelaparts.net/ I just went back and didn't find the Lion head dyno test but they claimed 115 horsepower with some combustion chamber or valve clearance modification. If you "google" Lion speed head you can find C Yapp's latest comments regarding his head.
Picked up a new tire chalk for the Stevens: so i am curious as to why this model A has a 3 bolt water pump and a this funny blanking plate on the block?
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The car's name wasn't mentioned in the article, just that it was wrecked at a race in Culver City in 1930, taken home and parked behind a barn in Salinas. It sat there until the mid 70's when Kirkpatrick found it under a big berry bush. One of the Hurley brothers told him about its whereabouts while he was in a rest home, well into his 80's at the time. He passed away a short time after tellng Melvin the story. The new owner of the property didn't even know there was a car there and didn't believe there was a car there but told Kirkpatrick that if he'd help him clear the bushes away, he could have anything they found.
If you go to this link: http://www.modelaparts.net/dynosheets.htm\dynosheets.html There are several dyno test results. Just click on the engine combo and it will pull up the dyno results for that set up. .
Also look for a diamond behind the timing cover on the side facing us in the picture. Look for cast stamps or tags on the head and block. Its a B engine as Bill said thats why there are inconsistencies between a normal A engine.-Weeks
For those who have not seen my thread here it is http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=418167 Also can anyone confirm a story I heard this weekend? Was there ever a Model A club at Edwards Air Force base?-Weeks
Got a question fellas. Got a '29 banger here and i'm tryin to get the flywheel off it. Its probably such an easy thing, but i've never done it before. I know that my '28 AR block has the flywheel sitting on the shaft and it has two dowels holding it in place, althoug the '29 i have that i'll be using has four bolts. I've made up a puller with a peice of 10mm plate, two holes of the four are bolted and another hole in the middle with a nut welded to the plate so that a peice of threaded rod can pass through it and ideally as it threads in, it pulls the flywheel off. Its not moving at all.. and its tight as a motherfucker. Any ideas?
I don't know about a club but in his autobiography Chuck Yeager spoke of a model A that he once owned that was sold from airman to airman. The car never left the base. I mean it was never sold to anyone stationed anywhere else. You owned the car, you got transferred, it was understood that you sold the A to someone still stationed at Edwards. I wonder if it's still there?
it needs a bath, so I will clean it off and report what I find. Is there a way to figure out what year it is by the serial numbers? It is nice to have a banger in the garage again. This whole model A thing is new to me...Exciting!!!
I went to a model "A" meet sponsored by an "A" club at Edwards in the 60's. I think the meet was at Rosamond dry lake. It was quite a turnout with "A" clubs from all over So Ca represented. We saw the "A" that was presented to the "top" test pilot. I recall the story being that it was passed to the top pilot replacement as the current one left or was killed in an accident. As I remember that it was a 29 sport coupe. Had a picture of Chuck Yeager standing beside it at one time. That is what I remember. It has been a long time. I have some slides somewheres. If Chromeandlight is interested I took them with a Voightlander Vito 11 35mm that I still have and it is in working order. I bought it new in 1956. Looks like I never get rid of anything.
Hello Justplain Bill, Chromeandlight is always interested. You are in Southern Calif. Do we know each other?
No, we have never met to my knowledge. I now use a digital so I can have instant gratification I suppose. I'm in the high desert about 20 miles, as the Crow flies, South East of El Mirage.
question for "97" Hi Could you give a more detailed information about that Nissan model. This country is full of diesels, but the engine type ed30 does not ring a bell. I could start looking for local junkyards, if that type is ever imported. All 3,0l nissan diesels seem to be a lot younger v6 engines.
Well I am further south near Long beach. Please to meet you sir. I am just trying to take fine vintage pics of rides from all over and get my own 31 up and runnin. J
The "B" engines had the serial # stamped on the top of the flywheels cover. Since yours is set up for the "A" flywheel cover and trans, your serial number is gone. "B" serial numbers started with a 5 million number like this *B5xxxxxx*. The pad on the block were the serial number was stamped for the model A was left blank on the "B" blocks. .
Thanks. I know T motors backwards, forwards, and inside out...I once had a look inside an A... 94's seem plentiful, will 2 x 94's be ok for this with a cam and headers?
94's work OK, but they are herder to tune in multiples. I recently helped set up a pair of them on a buddy's Flathead V-8. He says it runs great, but when I follow him, I know more work is needed. The power valves are the hard part. .
Is my coil burned up? I'm getting 3.1 ohms from neg to pos and 8500 ohms from the center to the neg. Damn thing died on me over the weekend and I pushed it almost a half mile home... Either that or my fuel pump has gone psycho - plugs are black (but no more so than usual) and were wet. Of course, I was cranking the crap out of it. It will hit, cough and die. Help!!! Thats a 12v coil on an electronic FS distributor - apparently 3.1 ohms is OK, 2.5 is the min Maybe the fuel pump went crazy...
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