History Vintage "Cageless" Midget Picture Thread

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Any of you NE PA/NJ/NY guys have a photo of Joe Barzda's #33 on the right side of the car? We're going to restore the car soon and dont have a photo of the right side.

 

Scarylarry, this is the best I have

http://www.thevintageracer.com/reading/reading_59_1.htm

 

Thanks for the effort Jim. Mine is an earlier Hillegass.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395876&highlight=midget

 

Scarylarry, I believe the right side of the car was plain. No lettering. When Joe went to the tube frame car the first year or so, there was only a number 33 on that car as well. I just went through a CD from the Stan Lobitz collection and couldn't find anything else.

I believe the hilligas picture you have is from 1946.

 

I agree too with Ken Schou's call on Carl Miller being in the number 73. Found a picture of Carl with the same two tone helmet but in a #37 that time.

Sorry I can't pick the pictures off of this CD.

 

.....'You had the best Thanksgiving a guy could ever have if you were at Ascot Park 47 years ago last night and saw Billy Cantrell racing A.J. Foyt for the win. Both men were driving a Jack London Offy. The Old Grey Fox went on to win giving Jack London a Turkey Night win 3 years in a row. If you were there 44 years ago you saw Dick Atkins outlast both Parnelli Jones and A.J. Foyt. Parnelli had a brand new Don Edmunds 4-bar midget but lost a right front wheel and flipped. Foyt shredded a right rear, then ran out of fuel and Atkins won the 150 lapper. And 40 years ago last night, George Benson won in a car he designed and built himself and this was the first year they went to the 100 lap event.

 

This is an old Hilligas Sprint car (Big Car) I once owned. I was built in PA by Hiram Hillegas, a very famous midget and big car builder and was driven by Lucky Loux to the 1951 NARA Championship. It originally had a four port Riley but by the time I got the car is has a 283. It went like stink. I took it a few times up to Louden, NH for the vintage celebration and ran it on the 1 mile oval. A blast for sure.

Like other great things in life, this one got sold to make room for something else or whatever.

I have tons of old pictures of other cars and will dig them out and post.

Joe

 

Bing Metz put the Pete Petraitis #40 Chevy II, out of Huntington Station, NY, up & into the grandstands at Philadelphia, PA's JFK Stadium in an ARDC show there.

This car is one of the "seeming many" former Bob Stroud Honker II Edmunds Offys that was driven by Bob Tattersall. This one was bought by Ken Brenn in 1968 .. initally driven (for Brenn) in June of 1968 by Jerry Karl, later as the #35 Brenn Offy by Bert Brooks (who lost his life in the car) .. Don Kreitz, Sr., plus Leigh Earnshaw won an ARDC championship (I believe) for Brenn in this car. Brenn then sold it to Pete Petraitis who campaigned it as his #40 Chevy II .. first with the ARDC and later with the SMRC (Sonny Sanders up mostly).

Again, since Brenn bought it in 1968 & started campaigning it immediately (while still in Stroud Honker II livery) it can NOT be a car that Tattersall drove 4 times in 1969 in the way to that USAC champoinship.

Al Consoli's picture of the car (now as Brenn's #35 with Bert Brooks up) documents that being taken at Flemington (NJ) also in 1968.

I'm also trying to confirm that this Stroud / Brenn / Petraitis car was built in 1965 .. NOT 1967 as the one HUTCHO's chum Graham in Austraila has. Also none of the above (except maybe Tattersall) ever drove Graham's car.

Also this Stroud / Brenn / Petraitis car has hairpin radius rods & NOT parallel ones.

Ron (HUTCHO) .. again this is a DIFFERENT Edmunds built Honker II .. one of seemingly many!!!!
There may have been more of these Stroud Honker II Edmunds Offys than the Stroud family ever knew about .. realized or care to admit????

 

Ken,unfortuneatly I cant add any further to my previous posting on the "Honker 11" although I can say my last posting was accurate as translayed .

BTW I had to make a decision about my look alike "Larry Gatorade "helmet as I have a showing on 6th dec.I am reasonably happy with the result,especially being 1/2 a world & 30 years away.I appreciated the imput you guys offered.I can always re do if I get a colored pic in the future. I think I'm about to leed with my chin here,but here goes.

 

Maybe a couple buckets of mud will hide the discrepancies LOL

 

Hutcho,

I think the helmet looks perfect! I wouldn`t change a thing on it.

 

Hey Ron ..

The helmet looks GRRRRREAT !!!!!

 

To get such great feedback from you guys is the icing on the cake,thanks all for the imput firstly & the tick of approval 2nd.6 days to go,not much more to do except,finish trailor decals,finish my tribute to Larry Rice,then the history of the car,re make the air filters,finish the car & detail it,oh & get the racesuit made! Plenty of time.& yep I need to put a moustache on my mannequin,cheers

 

Maybe Stroud had a new car built in late 65 or early 66. I drove the #35 Honker in 65 and know he went out west late that year. It is a shame that Mike [his Son] passed away a couple years ago as he knew all this stuff. His family still lives around St. Louis but I do not know how to get in touch with them, nay one know how?
Jim Graybeal

 

A friend of mine has some v/8 60 stuff to sell, can anyone on here hepl with what it is worth. email me and I can get you a list of what they have.
graybeal5@embarqmail.com

 

Here is a great website to check out; www.oldtimespeedway.com

 

In a recent thread the name Kym Bonython (Australia) appeared so going thru some old pics given to me by my old crew chief I found this one of Kym in this hay days,Cant tell you much about it(Im too young) but it must be as old as.

 

.....'Gentlemen, 'This is a question for our friends 'down under' in either Australia or New Zealand. Who is the vintage car owner that owns the two George Benson built cars that were: 1. The Nigel Paul Bates car that won a USAC National MIdget race at El Cajon (CA) in late 1968 and then was destroyed at the Houston Astrodome the follwing spring? Reportedly, Ken Talley, a crew member for Sim Clark got the bent chassis and sold it 10 years ago. 2. The former KingO'Lawn Offy that was originally sold to Jack London; London in turn, sold it to Leonard Faas? I have a friend that says both of those cars are in .....he said, Australia.

 

Here is me posing in a miller DOHC Midget

 

Nice pic, but it's not a midget.

 

It's a Big Car, the forerunner to the Sprint car. A really nice car, even though it could use some TLC.

Joe

 

TLC?? Looks like a pretty nice original car to me.

 

A favorite saying by the "Corngrower" their only original once.Nice car.

I fail your test Fauss.

 

I'm with Corngrower.

Do something about the bungee cord on the hood and it looks good to go.

Is it mechanically totally there and functional?

 

Thanks to my new US friends help the next stage of my project is complete,the gatorade racing patch on the rear back pocket I was able to depict from the DVD I have of Larry prior to the start of the World Derby win in NZ '77...no where can I see Larrys name?
The only discrepancy I could find when I picked up the suit,I realised I was never as trim as Larry LOL

 

Heres the new.

 

Gonna try and post this shot, think it's Georgie Rice, not sure where.

 

Here's one of Bill Schlindler, and his wife, from Cherry Park, in Avon, we think. And a neat shot of Harry Hull's rail frame sixty, probably with Chet Conklin in it. Either Cherry Park, or one of the old tracks in Springfield. Sorry about the upside down shot, still trying to figure this stuff out.

 

Bob Nowicke was inducted into the kentucky motorsports hall of fame this year. heck out some pictures of nowicke and other kentucky cars. At kentuckymotorsportshalloffame.com.