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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by tedley, Dec 9, 2009.

  1. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada

    I notice alot of great looking classic rods here that are fenderless, heavy chops, motors sticking way out past the cowl etc. I'm sure the rules for what passes the motor vehicle saftey test to get them on the road varys from state to state but i got to say, 50% of the builds i see here would not get a passing grade here. Things like a 9 inch vertical windshield is minimum here, blowers? pretrty much forget it. Then we have a 60-40 tire rule. A friend of mine had a 33 willys 3 window with a sbc 6-71 blower,tubbed rear and he had to sell it. Wouldn't alow the car on the rode. Hell i drove it , it was just fine in my book.lol
    So what do you have to work around when building to keep 'the man' happy.
     
  2. pasadenahotrod
    Joined: Feb 13, 2007
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    from Texas

    Most just build it and then complain if the big bad man stops them for a violation or the state inspector will not certify the car.
     
  3. woodhawg
    Joined: Apr 11, 2009
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    But officer, this is how Ford made them in 1928! No stinkin EPA or tree huggers. Actually used wood as spacers between frame and body.
     
  4. Mississippi has two requirements for a safety sticker.

    1. Five dollars.
    2. A windshield to put the sticker on.
     
  5. My kinda state Govt.....

    Rat
     
  6. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada

    Ya i here ya. Problem is....arguing with the fuzz just pisses him of more to the point he gets out his little manual.
    Things are getting so tight here i have to put in seat belts, 4 way flashers, dash brake light indicator, hi beam indicator, signal indictor light, and if you have what they call, a closed cab, you need a defrost with heat sourse. This rpu of mine has been on registered for 3 decades. Now i got it back and going for a new ownership app after recently getting it back, i have to do all these things. Not that it's difficult, just don't want that S#$t on my rod.
    SO IT GOES
     
  7. Yeah well welcome to our world dude.....been that way here in oz for a long time. We dont want that shit in our cars either but what can you do ?

    This car was built with all the things you mentioned.....easily. And it dont detract for the car at all...esp when you plan how you go about it and think it through.

    Most of the changes you have listed are easy and dont take wawy anything from the early look of the car if done properly.

    If I can do it, anyone can.....

    Take it as a challenge...you ARE a hot rodder...right?

    Rat
     

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  8. Judd
    Joined: Feb 26, 2003
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    Only if it was made after 1968 before that it doesn't need one.



     
  9. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
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    they're pretty careful in AZ about the VIN, other than that I've never had any problem.
     
  10. Mazooma1
    Joined: Jun 5, 2007
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    After driving hot rods for 43 years, I can tell you that much of what might or might not be a violation on your car will either be ignored or focused on.....
    depending on your attitude
     
  11. freebird101
    Joined: Feb 13, 2009
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    I live in the state of NY, were soon breathing will be illegal:D..... we got in by doing 2 things
    1. getting grandfathered in
    2.we are friends with the guy at the gas station giving us the inspection:rolleyes:
     
  12. WTF is a state saftey inspection sticker,close as I got is a HAMB decal in the vent glass.......................
     
  13. What ever happened to knowing the regulations BEFOR you build the car?
     
  14. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada

    Those little things like lites and seat belts aren't a problem to make look good . It's just not hot roddy. O well.
    It's the kybosh they put on the chops and ride height thing that bugs me. In the sixtys we got tagged for being too high in the back, now it's too low. lol. different times. Got a scrub law here to.
     
  15. oilslinger53
    Joined: Apr 17, 2007
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    from covina CA

    build it to pass, then make it how you want.
     
  16. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada

    Back in 81 or so i had to go thru the hoops of the time and passed. Even was issued a new serial number. Sold it in 85 and just got it back a few months ago.. But today they have new rules with new registrations,. So here we go....
     
  17. Asphalt Outlaw Hero
    Joined: Dec 9, 2006
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    Asphalt Outlaw Hero
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    from Dixie

    That's two more than Tennessee:D

     
  18. One of the best parts of the HAMB is the no politics rule. Do you think your signature line violates this rule?
     
  19. tedley
    Joined: Nov 8, 2009
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    tedley
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    from canada


    Your right unless you run into one of those 'traffic nazis'. Had the experiance with a die hard traffic cop last year. Had my old school 68 Royal Enfield bobber out for 2 weeks... got read the riot act. Had to make some changes. No choice.
    So it goes
     
  20. storm king
    Joined: Oct 16, 2007
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    I'm certainly with Mazooma1 on this one.
     
  21. retromotors
    Joined: Dec 10, 2008
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    retromotors
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    Uh ... pardon me if I perform a slight correction.
    It should read:
    1. Five dollars.
    2. A big enough piece of windshield to put the sticker on.:cool:
     
  22. Boyd Who
    Joined: Nov 9, 2001
    Posts: 2,196

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    I'm going through the same thing with my Essex, Tedley. There ARE ways around it if you know what to do.
    My T touring project will most likely become a "jalopy", ie the T body set on a basically stock A chassis with banger power. It will be fenderless, and as it will all be antique stuff on the car I plan to run Vintage Auto plates on it. No inspection needed, just very limited use. I currently run those plates on my Essex until I can get it to pass an inspection.
     
  23. tudorkeith
    Joined: May 10, 2009
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    here in Nh, we get antique plates.even with clips and newer motors. Hell I've got a friend with a 46 fenderless, no hood ford truck. he doesn't even get a sticker. technically here any stock 49 and older doesn't need an inspection, modified needs 1 every 2 years. and like previously mentioned, know someone helps
     
  24. SOHC427
    Joined: Apr 5, 2009
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    Shit, I bought my house, outside of the Nazi rules here in CO, but I think they are catching up to me, in Redneck ville.... Or is it Yuppieville??
     
  25. zzford
    Joined: May 5, 2005
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    Florida has no vehicle inspection. This is very evident by the number of POS on the roads. Makes rodding nice, though.
     
  26. Phil1934
    Joined: Jun 24, 2001
    Posts: 2,716

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    GA used to have safety inspection, but the majority of stations would insist on an unnecessary job like headlight alignment to pad the bill, so it was dropped.
     
  27. skwurl
    Joined: Aug 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,620

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    No state inspection here. Sometimes thats not a good thing
     
  28. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
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    NY state inspection for vehicles older than 25 years is limited to real safety items,making sure the steering ,brakes and lights work more or less as they should.Cracked glass is even allowed if not in the widshield wiper area.No mention of fenders ,hoods,exhaust system or lowered vehicles.I believe that stuff is part of the vehicle code inforced by the police.A lot of fenderless old stuff driving around here,so............
     
  29. theHIGHLANDER
    Joined: Jun 3, 2005
    Posts: 10,690

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    So are you saying the Great White North requires seat belts and signals in everything now? That's going to piss off the Cord and Deusy owners, as well as every other restorer with an oldie. I'm thinkin title it as what it was then build it if that's not the case. Now you did mention a new VIN, is that why?

    I chuckle when people here in MI think they need to add seat belts to their classic Packard or Cadillac, or even their Model As. I hear stories like "...I got let off with a warning..." and I want to find the cop in question and bitch-slap the fuck with the state regulation book. Safety is a good thing. I'm no blood thirsty road warrior but I also resent being forced in to things that I ought to be able to choose for myself. Our state says in broad terms "...if originally equipped..." regarding some of what's been posted.

    Mazzoma's got it pretty close for here too, but how do we define the ignorant law enforcers? The problem as I discussed with friend recently, it's now mutated from protection and safety to us against them. The new cop's job is to generate revenue or he can't get paid. It's not your hot rod, resto, or daily, it's your wallet. This is where the last gasp of a hoodlum life is a positive thing. We need to be more aware than the revenue collectors. Be prepared for a fight at times and don't forget local ordinance either. That's what judges do when they want 'their side' to win. They lobby for and help pass new regs at a local level. Bottom line to me, for us Michigan residents, get and keep good OEM paper. 99% of the time it's an undisputed way out of trouble whether it's a restored Model A or a fire-breathin hot rod. It's still a Model A. Good luck up there, sounds rough.
     
  30. I'm another NYer (part time) and Floridian (part time). NY has a basic horn, lights, brakes, inspection for old cars...Florida has none. I, too, resent the State using the V&T as a revenue source...yearly charge for inspection, and exhorbitant registration fees, not to mention the stickers stuck all over my chopped windsheild. So I registered my Roadster in FL...no inspection, no stickers...however, I feel lost without a shoulder belt, but it's MY decision to install them, not the States. As for safety inspections, I do my own. After all, it's for my own safety...
     

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